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one from all vs all from one

2008-10-06T04:28:00.000-07:00

comment-2515

Nor do you ...
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"....why capitalism is in perpetual crisis. It would be in perpetual crisis even if there was no fiat money at all, and all money was metallic."
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well ....., waidaminnit, the slow increment of metal (or commodity baskets with real seed, handtools and musical rockgrinders in mine) is a healthy brake on all this take the money and run away computation power and prowess.
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"This is because, as each industrialist automates his production process, he gains market share temporarily by cheapening his unit output cost, but when they are all fully automated, there is no profit left to share around."
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Mmmm, the role of automation in real estate value could stand a little scrutiny, .... getting too big to fail is approaching a point of tide change/(no re)turn, the stage in the old sloshpump boil, bank and bail battle between bond and share where formerly rising stars plummet and lose prestige yet/but get honoured (as well as honorated) saved by the bell of long term dependability; iow, even if little gambles on rising location location occasion occ up as zion value did not pan out (as anything but what the dutch call 'bezigheidstherapy', keepmbusy ... at great material cost and keeping collective trauma safely ensconced in unquestioned 'comfort zones'*) the bets that the perimeter remains inviolable and bonds are honoured we just shift the taxburden to everybody. this contradicts the many are called few chosen, much tried little succeeds doctrine and approaches the omniangle cover all centrality tries for.

After big bail outs all get to work off crimes a mere few commited instead of all profiting from those disCERN n earn-a-lotters whose sole ambition, pride and joy, hence highest reward is not those faux bets with nothing but a growing swirl of plastic debris# to show for them, but instead, as they should be, ARE in line with sphere of influence - satisfactory approval easily readable on every square unit you care to measure within it by simply observing animals. I was in Tessin on a once rich grazing and collecting (maroni) slope with a stag doing his 'where's the party, goddammit!' call, which of course set off a refinement in my thoughts on money and/vs coin of the realm (rockdust). If this confuses anybody they have but to search out my thoughts on Cernunnos and the bags of coins he empties into the grounds around him&.

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& emptiness instead of wet and dry greys symbiotating into green
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"Only fresh labour generates fresh profit."
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if you really thought so you would certainly study demographics and folks like sapolsky and perhaps cite filled sitemaker of among others neoteny.org a lot more
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"This is why telecoms, and other high-tech automated consumer industries, are such perennial loss-makers.
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your (and any) prod/cons division is (are) ultimatelyy just that, divisive and artificial. One works one's way into what one won't do without.
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" Take a look at Das Kapital, Vol III."
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why do i keep on thinking you will once start recommending Ulrich von Beckerath instead, like i do?

comment on Drew Hempel comment

2008-08-21T12:03:00.000-07:00

http://mothershiplanding.blogspot.com
mother's hip or m other ship?

Great Galactic Ghoul comments on his post
"Homophonic Induction and the Homunculus":

Well I've studied in Costa Rica, Morocco, Venezuela, Alaska, etc. Marx was right about "primitive accumulation." Whether global warming is natural or not is irrelevant because humans are part of nature. That's the deeper issue -- humanity coming to terms with accepting that Nature is in control. The global warming models rely on quantum chaos -- it's discrete math whereby the computers provide the "logic." Obviously computers don't care if humans survive or not -- in fact the math has been that way since it was created -- what I call the "surplus value of consciousness."

So the ecological crisis is real only as a mirror of technology as the religion of humanity. We want more and better technology and therefore the ecological crisis will get worse and then we'll need more technology to "save the planet." Humans are replacing themselves by machines -- based on incorrect logic about infinity. This is a Western process (since 10,000 BCE) -- so those on the periphery of the empire have known this for centuries. Now we are experiencing what I call "Imperial Implosion."

Piet:

into the sixth minute of a fast paced image sequence from a wide range of movies

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=966VUOaJ5sQ

we hear the narrator speak of theories* about alledged plans (of the hegemonic pop control variety) behind those trying to convince us we have a climate emergency on our hands.

* - trans- or 'intergenocidal' ..4 google results..

As Steve (the maker of that youtube linked at the start, his user nick is soundlessdawn) says that 'the keys are in our hands' he shows some young person blowing away a 2 legged fishlike creature .. so ... he is in need of the ideas i try in vain to distribute ..so far i have some footage of a jaw crusher but instead of me showing within 5 miles of a rainbow gathering in an 18 wheeler loaded with fruit seed soil dust and fabric, sieves, pumps and hose .. as i had expected to be able to by now back in the eighties, i see a bunch of youtubes with paranoid FS officials using their tasers and peppersprayguns in 'kid village'. Mmmmm, maybe that is why i have started to study the schitsoiddity of Charles Manson that bad boy antichrist.

After a longer comment on Steve and his buddy Jake Kotze that i wrote yesterday but cannot access now i concluded these guys are so busy showing how everything is connected (by evil intent trying to prepare for the inevitable, losing the kind of control they foster and cherish) that they forget to leave hollywood fantasyland and look at some real scenes (the attempt to tie in extremely large scale and far off phenoms, like the midgalactic barrage of particle accelerator like photon belt doesn't help any in that regard).

The solution is similar to the parallel ones in economics. One can not and certainly not in a swell foop or revo type toss .. get rid of systemic problems but one can argue against it all using humility and common sense, fighting back we win one meme, one mind, one channel, one certain program fanset, one province, one hearer- and/or viewership at a time. These patterns have their own gears and resonances. Pacifists must believe in volition and voluntarizing cause it is the best tool in their box.

So, qua climate, take care of your microclimate, a scale on which climatechange is palpable quite rapidly .. though not as rapidly as that Paul Laffoley asserts in the rustbelt films flick* and take every chance you get to widen it without neglecting it plant such a more and mode far and wide.

This is where my wound gulf rift split sits. Right in my homeless Wanderschaft (wandershipshopshaper, bragger, phantasmic music(x) searcher and recognizer chasin that musical rockgrinder ...down .... the road .... again ... still).

(x) - "music phantoms" “Music Phantoms: Uncanned Conceptions of Music from Josephine the Singer to Mickey Mouse.” SubStance 58 (1989): 3-24.

In economics i have tried to do my bits raising awareness levels of cooperative, communicative versions of capitalism through self help schemes that can start as modestly as gardening by collecting info on complementary or community currencies.

Not that, again, i have even joined any of them very closely.

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-- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PmtvZazcjc "Laffoley's odyssey" (rustbelt films, directed by roger bourdeau)

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the only film uploaded by this person (pdog)

11.236 views for this one

the most outrageous remarks ever recorded out of PL's mouth, starting with his tensigrity construct ideas for a line to the moon .. made out of sand so we don't interfere with radiation. The prizewinning nuttiness of statements and drawings like these are solidly contested by his assertions we could/should bio engineer seed to mature in 3 months, which will then be the time needed to grow a house

"my overall plan is to have the earth covered in a single vegetable"

Paul articulates this (death/posthum((on))gous)wish:

pour the studio he spent a bigger percent of time than the best hermit in the most irresistable of caves, full of lucite, allow time to dry and shoot into space as a way to honour how paul feels when he is working.

So how does that German M Werner (breatharian in the dailymail, link at Drew's - or dru's as his gnn.tv account has it) manage to do all that circulation ... unconsciously? Is he a natural?

Is that like not needing to circulate airbubbles (big ones up and tiny ones down as wessel di wesseli does or wants to do rather) with cumbersome constructions that break down and wear out but still get energy to run computers and stuff??

Ps: funny coincidence happened at http://niqnaq.wordpress.com
Just as i was looking at William Guy Carr a little closer (I did mention that hour long world affairs analysis from 57 online didn't i?), Rowan wrote a post on the fella.

Well within the top 444 of all time best blog posts

2008-04-07T11:30:00.000-07:00

Piet: In fact this musage (by Roger Gathman) is easily on the short end of the 88 best blog posts from the first decade we have had to contend with them best we could even! (make a pilgrimage and walk around it 11 times for me please, and certainly do NOT skip comments.

http://limitedinc.blogspot.com march 21 2008

Men in chains 3
Livy’s history was the hunt and peck book for generations of philosophes. Machiavelli wrote his discourses about it; Montesquieu studied it for L’esprit de lois; and, I’d contend, Rousseau opens his Du Contrat Social, an essay that begins with an epigraph from the Aeneid, with a reference to it: “L'homme est né libre, et partout il est dans les fers.” As LI has been pointing out (with my usual autistic artistry, winding theme around theme) in my Man in Chains posts, the chain looms large in the history of freedom – and it seems that the ideologues of freedom have been a little too hasty in consigning the chain to the figurative, all the better to speak of freedom as a matter of will, or of rights. But the figurative does seem to operate a return of the repressed, a memory of irons, of yokes, of chains, which runs through Rousseau’s essay and contacts the plebian notion of freedom, as expressed in such fons et origo texts as Livy’s history.
In George Dow’s Slave Ships and Slaving, there’s an account by J.B. Romagne of life aboard La Rodeur, a slave ship that entered the Calabar river in 1819, and loaded up with Africans, intending to sell them in Guadaloupe. This was life in the chains completely:
“ Since we have been at this place, Bonny Town in the Bonny river, on the coagt of Africa, I have become more accustomed to the howling of these Negroes. At first, it alarmed me, and I could not sleep. The Captain says that if they behave well they will be much better off at Guadaloupe; and I am sure, I wish the ignorant creatures would come quietly and have it over. Today, one of the blacks whom they were forcing into the hold, suddenly knocked down a sailor and attempted to leap overboard. He was caught, however, by the leg by another of the crew, and the sailor, rising up in a passion, hamstrung him with a cutlass. The Captain, seeing this, knocked the butcher flat upon the deck with a handspike. “I will teach you to keep your temper’, said he, with an oath. “He was the best slave in the lot.’ I ran to the main chains and looked over; for they had dropped the black into the sea when they saw that he was useless. He continued to swim, even after he ahd sunk under the water, for I saw the red track extending shoreward; but by and by, it stopped, widened, faded, and I saw it no more. ”
Dow records an auction of items ‘suitable for a Guinea voyage’, held at the Merchant’s Coffee house:
One iron furnace and copper, 27 cases with bottles, 83 pairs of shackles, 11 neck collars, 22 handcuffs for the traveling chain, 4 long chains for slaves, 54 rings, 2 travelling chains, 1 corn mill 7 four pound basons, 6 two pound basons, 3 brass pans, etc., etc.” … In Livy, Book 2, a section is devoted to the first secession of the Plebs – which forms the background, incidentally, to Shakespeare’s Coriolanus – which occurred as the plebians and the patricians fought over liberty in the city after the successful conclusion of three small wars, the final one against the Volscians. The disturbances in the city, according to Livy, were always about the same thing – debt. The first story that gives rise to uproar is this one:
“An old man, bearing visible proofs of all the evils he had suffered, suddenly appeared in the Forum. His clothing was covered with filth, his personal appearance was made still more loathsome by a corpse-like pallor and emaciation, his unkempt beard and hair made him look like a savage. In spite of this disfigurement he was recognised by the pitying bystanders; they said that he had been a centurion, and mentioned other military distinctions he possessed. He bared his breast and showed the scars which witnessed to many fights in which he had borne an honourable part. The crowd had now almost grown to the dimensions of an Assembly of the people. He was asked, `Whence came that garb, whence that disfigurement?' He stated that whilst serving in the Sabine war he had not only lost the produce of his land through the depredations of the enemy, but his farm had been burnt, all his property plundered, his cattle driven away, the war-tax demanded when he was least able to pay it, and he had got into debt. This debt had been vastly increased through usury and had stripped him first of his father's and grandfather's farm, then of his other property, and at last like a pestilence had reached his person. He had been carried off by his creditor, not into slavery only, but into an underground workshop, a living death. Then he showed his back scored with recent marks of the lash.
On seeing and hearing all this a great outcry arose; the excitement was not confined to the Forum, it spread every where throughout the City. Men who were in bondage for debt and those who had been released rushed from all sides into the public streets and invoked `the protection of the Quirites.' The formula in which a man appealed to his fellow-citizens for help." ----
Livy mixes news of the wars with news of the uproars of the plebians. Finally a dictator was chosen, and the Volscians were defeated. But still there was debt, the increasing power of the creditors over the debtors.
“The moneylenders possessed such influence and had taken such skillful precautions that they rendered the commons and even the Dictator himself powerless. After the consul Vetusius had returned, Valerius introduced, as the very first business of the senate, the treatment of the men who had been marching to victory, and moved a resolution as to what decision they ought to come to with regard to the debtors. His motion was negatived, on which he said, `I am not acceptable as an advocate of concord. Depend upon it, you will very soon wish that the Roman plebs had champions like me. As far as I am concerned, I will no longer encourage my fellow-citizens in vain hopes nor will I be Dictator in vain. Internal dissensions and foreign wars have made this office necessary to the commonwealth; peace has now been secured abroad, at home it is made impossible. I would rather be involved in the revolution as a private citizen than as Dictator.' So saying, he left the House and resigned his dictatorship. The reason was quite clear to the plebs; he had resigned office because he was indignant at the way they were treated.”
It was then that the plebians made the famous decision to withdraw in a body from Rome. The patricians sent Menenius Agrippa, to address them, “an eloquent man, and acceptable to the plebs as being himself of plebeian origin. He was admitted into the camp, and it is reported that he simply told them the following fable in primitive and uncouth fashion. `In the days when all the parts of the human body were not as now agreeing together, but each member took its own course and spoke its own speech, the other members, indignant at seeing that everything acquired by their care and labour and ministry went to the belly, whilst it, undisturbed in the middle of them, did nothing but enjoy the pleasures provided for it, entered into a conspiracy; the hands were not to bring food to the mouth, the mouth was not to accept it when offered, the teeth were not to masticate it. Whilst, in their resentment, they were anxious to coerce the belly by starving it, the members themselves wasted away, and the whole body was reduced to the last stage of exhaustion. Then it became evident that the belly rendered no idle service, and the nourishment it received was no greater than that which it bestowed by returning to all parts of the body this blood by which we live and are strong, equally distributed into the veins, after being matured by the digestion of the food.' By using this comparison, and showing how the internal disaffection amongst the parts of the body resembled the animosity of the plebeians against the patricians, he succeeded in winning over his audience.”
Thus, the famous apology of Menenius Agrippa. It is striking to me that the stomach, which is described as the hub of the body – it returns nourishment by way of blood to all parts of the body – is maintained by the chain-like actions of the body’s ‘accidents’, its minors, its rude mechanicals – Hands to mouth, teeth to mouth, mouth to stomach. Here the body divides into two, one part of which is linked together by a chain of debt that must be paid to support the other part, the center and hub. An invisible chain links together all those acts by which we survive, and the body’s possibles – its particulars, its bits – become, each separately, slaves, insofar as the slave is defined, practically, as the one who is in irons. Until, of course, we are useless: “…for I saw the red track extending shoreward; but by and by, it stopped, widened, faded, and I saw it no more”
Posted by roger at 10:27 AM 9 comments
P.M.Lawrence said... 'An invisible chain links together all those acts by which we survive, and the body’s possibles – its particulars, its bits – become, each separately, slaves, insofar as the slave is defined, practically, as the one who is in irons. Until, of course, we are useless: “…for I saw the red track extending shoreward; but by and by, it stopped, widened, faded, and I saw it no more”'.
Avoiding this sort of suffering, of course, is part of the reason why civilised societies had provisions in their slave laws preventing slaves being freed against their will, so that those who became useless wouldn't be turned out to perish (the other part being, to minimise slave unrest at the prospect).
7:42 PM
roger said... Since in all Southern states in the U.S., blacks could not testify in court, leaves sort of a big gap in the law, don't you think? Making one suspect that such laws were for show - just as the 1685 code noir in Saint-Domingue contained a host of provisions forbidding most of the practices that were routine on Haitian sugar plantation until overturned by the successful expulsion of the whites.
It is amazing what a hollow shell laws become in a l'univers concentrationaire.
9:05 PM
P.M.Lawrence said... No, the laws were not for show; they had the practical purpose and real achievement of reducing slave unrest. There was a slave revolt in the British West Indies because of the threat of emancipation, until the transitional tutelage arrangements were made clear. Granted, just such destitution was thrust upon the coolies that had replaced those slaves, when the indenture system was reformed out from under them without the final gratuity or passage home they would have received at the normal end of their indentures (as recorded by V.S.Naipaul), but as Winston Churchill remarked, it would have been a terminological inexactitude to call them slaves - so, there was no reason for them to get slavery's benefits.
Even Islam had such laws; Burton explains them in a footnote clarifying something... odd... in the Tale of the Third (? uncertain) Eunuch, when that unfortunate explained how he came into his estate while a slave boy. After greatly harming and offending his master, the master decided he was more trouble than he was worth and proposed turning him loose. The slave reminded his master that he couldn't do it without consent (here fell the footnote), so the master simply bludgeoned him unconscious and sent for a barber who, doubling as a surgeon, castrated the unconscious boy.
Now, I know we cannot take a story as an authority in itself, but this was supporting background material to add verisimilitude; we can take it that Islam would not be surprised at beating a slave unconscious and castrating him, or that this should seem more lawful and practical than freeing him against his will, the simpler, cheaper and otherwise preferable alternative.
12:41 AM
roger said... Yes, the laws were for show. Evidence from the British caribbean in the shadow of looming emancipation notwithstanding, the Southern slave codes were a farce, the code noir was systematically flouted in the greatest slave factory in the Western Hemisphere, Saint-Domingue, and Arab slavery is a vast subject about which there are varying codes and customs. Orlando Patterson presents the authoritative account of manumission in Slavery and Social Death - but the logic of your position, I have to say, is a little absurd. Of course, the slave who was freed would have a hard time compared to the peasant because in most of the world up until very recently, one depended on one's family as one got older. And guess what? The slave's family was either - in slavery in the neighborhood, in slavery far distant from the slave, or in Africa. So the argument is, of course, pretty absurd to begin with.
Not all slave systems were meat factories like the Saint-Domingue plantation system, but all slave systems depended much less on unenforceable law and much more on economic rationality and conventions that would shame the slave owner. And even those were weak - Robert E. Lee's family, for instance, were known as---- "good" ----masters, but they didn't hesistate to sell their slaves when they needed money to slavetraders who sold them West.
7:09 AM
P.M.Lawrence said... Sigh.
In general, when masters went beyond what the law allowed, which of course they were tempted to do, they were throwing a cost on the wider public. Slave laws were often ineffective, for that reason - but still valuable for the society that had slaves, by minimising the trouble having them around caused. There was a public interest in enforcing them, even if that was often difficult; they were not adopted for show but for public order, just ineffective in many cases. And, of course, different societies had different systems; Roman slaves were even entitled to pay they could save towards buying their freedom, the---- "peculium". Consider what would have happened in a Roman household that withheld this...
Unlike other parts of the slave codes, there was a feature to the provisions against involuntary emancipation that made them enforceable: the victims were not slaves in a position where their masters could control any justice that could reach them. Furthermore, there was a constituency that objected to slaves being freed when they were no longer of use: those who feared having them around if they were ineligible for relief, and who feared paying for relief if they were. (This, of course, is largely why places like Virginia required free blacks to leave, while free states like Illinois were reluctant to have them arrive.)
The argument is not an absurdity; it is a real consequence of a system then obtaining. If absurdity there be, it lies in the system, not in what I present. Emancipation could harm its recipients. Not only did this befall the coolies I mentioned, missionaries described it among former convicts in French Guiana; convicts feared freedom at the end of a long sentence, from seeing the plight of these libérés (who were still confined to the colony but no longer receiving even the poor board and lodging of convicts), and they feared doublage, an administrative punishment doubling their sentences that prevented them being able bodied at the end of their sentences. There was nothing absurd about freedom being a threat to some slaves.
2:02 AM
roger said... Nothing absurd in individual cases, but the case you are making makes little sense, Mr. Lawrence. As long as a slave is vendable, there is a huge hole in the notion that the involuntary emancipation of slaves was a problem. Since they could be sold, those who resist emancipation could simply be stuffed in the pipeline. And the sales, in the American case, tended to be westward. Why? Because the slave system became rougher and less selective as you moved west. Thus, a slave that, for instance, didn't want to be separated from his family and 'resisted' emancipation could easily be dealt with by the next slave trader that came along.
Emancipation would have contingent casualties, of that you are no doubt correct, but the casualties would not be the result of some human slave code being annulled, but of improvisational master-slave arrangements being disturbed - quite a different thing. Your example from Guiana is a perfect example of why an argument that singles out a humanistic strain in a code without examining the code in context is a poor use of analytic energy - it is reminiscent of the Stalin era practice of giving---- "pardons" ----to convicts who---- "volunteered" ----to continue working on convict labor projects. Freedom, here, simply names another form of punishment.
9:54 AM
P.M.Lawrence said... "...the case you are making makes little sense..." ----How so? If you are suggesting there is some internal contradiction, what is it? If some discrepancy with observation, what? But if you are simply stating that it is contrary to common sense or something of that sort, you are making theory trump fact.
"As long as a slave is vendable..." ----- who said they were, at any rate at a price to cover transaction costs? Slavery in England was abolished after a court case in which a visitor from overseas turned a sick slave out, but tried to reclaim him after a kind stranger looked after him and brought him back to health.
"Your example from Guiana is a perfect example..." ----Which example? I cited both French and British Guiana, in the convicts and the coolies. French Guiana lacked such provisions, and British Guiana had only had slave codes for slaves. Those examples were to highlight the chronic problems that arose from not having similar provisions for things that were not technically slavery; they are a reference comparison. You accurately condemn the improvisational problems, failing to note that these cases contrast with those where slave codes had such arrangements, they do not illustrate what happened when they were in place.
8:21 PM
roger said... Mr. Lawrence, your example of the abolition of slavery in England doesn't have to do with slave codes, but with the abolition of slavery, as you yourself say - the enforcement of a code that brings about the abolition of the object of the code is a very odd code indeed. The enforcement of laws concerning speed limits do not bring about the abolition of driving.
However, we are getting somewhere. Your case from England seems to demonstrate that either the slave system is such that slaves can be sold - in which case slave codes can be easily flouted - or not, in which case the inadequacy of the slave code is such that slavery itself is abolished. The system would make no sense, from the slaveholder's point of view, if the slaveholder were forced to feed and care for slaves against his or her will.
To understand the slave systems in the new world, the key is that the slave can be sold. In geographically smaller societies, such as Trinidad, selling slaves was not the threat that it was in, say, Georgia, but it was an element that governed the features of slave families - which is why, in fact, in Saint-Domingue the domestic supply of slaves was never adequate. Women had no reason to have children, and would try as much as they could to abort them, unless they escaped to a Maroon society.
The Spanish code was generally considered the most humane, but it was modified or simply ignored in high profit areas, such as Cuba. The British, notoriously, when they took Trinidad from the Spanish, introduced their own code, which abolished the Spanish route to manumission for slaves - they could no longer purchase their freedom - and fined planters if, for instance, they did not make their slaves work on Saturdays. As A. Meredith John points out in a study of Trinidad demography, under the new British code---- "led to the deterioration of the conditions that the slaves had enjoyed under Spanish law." ----In the British and American systems in particular, manumission became much rarer.
But, you might say, ah ha, the Spanish code then was this humane system, thus showing that civilized human beings did modify the slave system. But only when the system was small, as in Trinidad, and only so long as the produce of slave labor did not lead to great wealth for the planters. Hugh Thomas, in his history of Cuba, reports that the 1789 code, which was the same humane code that worked in Trinidad, was a---- "dead letter" ----in Cuba.---- "instruction in the Catholic religion and attendance of priests on feast days; the proportion of men to women and hours and years of work; the punishment and the health provisions - all these were ignored." ----As Thomas points out, the slave code was even published in Cuba because the slave owners were afraid the slaves might see it.
7:43 AM
P.M.Lawrence said... "Mr. Lawrence, your example of the abolition of slavery in England doesn't have to do with slave codes, but with the abolition of slavery, as you yourself say" ----- No!
I did not give an example of the abolition of slavery in England, I gave an example of the events that led to the abolition of slavery in England, to illustrate that when there were no effective provisions against involuntary emancipation, it could indeed happen that slaves were freed against their wills rather than being sold somewhere. It is a counter-example refuting your assertion about that. I have been trying to penetrate your blind spot in this matter, what some have called---- "invincible ignorance".
As for---- "Your case from England seems to demonstrate that either the slave system is such that slaves can be sold... or not, in which case the inadequacy of the slave code is such that slavery itself is abolished", that is a false dichotomy. That is how things played out in that time and place, but it is quite clearly not enough to generalise from like that.
"The system would make no sense, from the slaveholder's point of view, if the slaveholder were forced to feed and care for slaves against his or her will" ----- you are applying a micro rather than a macro measure. It did indeed make sense to have such arrangements, because the usual case was that a parcel of slaves remained more valuable in aggregate when those who became useless were cared for - carrot was cheaper than stick. Think of it as a form of social security at plantation level.
The rest is accurate, but remains a digression; accuracy does not save it from being a digression. (For what it's worth, codes of the late 18th century, when adopted, were often adopted for show by the adopters, but on the one hand those who enacted them meant them, and on the other hand places like Mauritius and Réunion cared so little for show that they were provoked into rebellion rather than adopt them - hypocrisy just wasn't that compelling.)
You might like to read the introductory part of Nassau Senior's work on Wages, available on the internet, where he goes into the economics of slave areas. It gives some useful background. We know from history that the usual evolution was away from chattel slavery, via serfdom where people were attached to the land (and could be supported in infirmity by their neighbours, but not evicted in practice), to landlordism in which they could be evicted more easily. Slavery made more sense when free labour could conveniently set up on its own (which led to reaching a modus vivendi with maroons, escaped slaves and their descendants who had done just that, to kick the ladder away after them and - poacher turned gamekeeper - keep out later runaways), and landlordism made more sense when free labour had to take what was offered - and then, less explicit stick being needed, less carrot was justified. In his North America Trollope records that custom had brought Kentucky to the middle stage by the time of the American Civil War.
8:13 PM

fixed the links

2008-04-07T05:31:00.000-07:00

they are good

I discovered 14 files made in 2005 are missing

2007-02-03T07:29:00.000-08:00

in english these:

WardChurchill3.htm
nov05.htm
oct05third (196K)
oct05twee (185K)
oct05 (187K)

july05 (126K)
june05too (89K)
june05 (172K)
may05too (163K)
may05 (153K)

files in dutch missing

---- nazomer05 (145K) ----

---- zomer05.htm (155K) --- NO MATCHES
---- voorjaar05twee (158K) --- NO MATCHES
---- laatste04 (56K) ----- NO MATCHES

retrieved 5 on top of an earlier 4 older files via the wayback machine though. Thanks!

more particulars in the next post down.

wow, just wrote this as the 155th draft .. . .

2007-02-03T05:52:00.000-08:00

what synchrony with Saddam being seal 155 and missing also .. . .irretriebably? Not if you go by Jose Arguelles, entirely in sync with what the boulevard press folks choose to focus on (visit http://www.lawoftime.org to see for yourself).

HELP ME RETRIEVE MISSING FILES (19 of them made in 2005 and posted to the 'domain' http://members.lycos.nl/vadercats now defunct except for the front page restarted a third time after discovering the missing files and trying to reason with Lycos ... about as impossible as reviving Saddam i guess).

Just commented this at Hyperstition:
"… to steal sd's term, is the hunger for an unambiguous casus belli, consolidating itself as a virtual mega-atrocity against 'oneself'."

Riiite, well, my host, the owner of the terminal i worked from a lot in 2005 threw out all my maps from that year, the ones left afte i caved in to her nagging about space and i went to make backups on usb of sight and sound so i could schlepp 'm to the Resuckle Bin. You are saying i did that and i am in denial instead of her? Possible i suppose... ..

Took me all this time before i went and looked at saves stuff to take stock of my efforts.

ps: anybody save the files i made that year someplace retrievable? Even google doesn't seem to remember what logbriefer meant to the crowd that spammed me into a rank 4 position. Good for all involved no doubt, yet i feel a nagging loss.

The disk on which said atrocity took place has been defragmented a lot since, does that means the free data recovery from places such as http://hiren.info are gonna be no good?
piet exalias vadercats | 02.03.07 - 1:13 pm | #

nov05.htm
oct05third (196K)
oct05twee (185K)
oct05 (187K)

july05 (126K)
june05too (89K)
june05 (172K)
may05too (163K)
may05 (153K)

march05 (168K)
jan05
winter0405 (166K)

in dutch:
---- /mei04.htm (51K) ----
--- zomer04.htm (117k) ---
---- nazomer04.htm (121k) ----
---------- herfst 04 (118k) -----------
------------- herfst 04 twee (147K) -----------
------ voorjaar05.htm (157K) ------

----------- voorjaar05twee.htm (158K) ----------

'Grounding parade'

2006-12-11T03:55:00.000-08:00

(see last link if you don't have much time)

i'm gonna borrow that for a title post; it's from this

comment: http://www.haloscan.com/comments/hyperstition/8730/#242075

piet - Chinese do a lot of that kinky vegeto-engineering, woven trees etc. We've even got one in the apartment (common type of slowly knitted house-plant). So it's not just teutonic phytological parade-grounding, although I can see why it looks like that ...
Nick 12.08.06 - 2:38 pm #

My answer there 3 days later:

http://www.too-late.ch/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=10288
http://www.turn.ch/danceoutwef/?page_id=7

Here's a large series of parade pictures from Bern Switserland; about a hundred lefties with slogans such as 'rich hearts instead of fat profit' and the like leftoid 'catextoskism', .. .as if money shouldn't or can't or won't again be what enriches the heart as the means that makes matter and spirit meet and bond in the middle as heart and soul.

I wrote words to that effect in response to folks ganging up to oust www.weidenhof.de (from the rainbow list in german) for asking a fee upfront in case one would like to make use of the meticulously clean and dustfree accomodation. A hysterical reaction since there is a vast amount of room to do the rainbow family thing next to and all around it.

Same, however, applies to my objections regarding their plans to have firewalks across or next to the 'sacred' fire planned there this month.

Turns out John Ray's vocal opposition still has people that say the same things JR used to except now there are many and pretty popular descendants from his barbaric point holding techniques (I include Reiki, Quantum Touch and lots of those feminine typ therapies).

Now if you were to go down life's walks and styles depicted on the right hand side in the scheme depicted in the post previous to this one (at indexterity) you'd see what i doubt the chinese drone swarmclone will ever be capable of (without some/your? help; so why don't you smuggle these pictures and everything they stand for into the Chinese daily nick):

http://www.treehousebydesign.com/

look for zoaria's favorites (4 full slideshow series)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Indigene, . digger, amish, hippy, .. pleaching permaculturist?

2006-10-04T02:44:00.000-07:00

For pleached permaculture (and especially for it's potential, once enough of us get to keep at it unmolested) you're gonna have to use your imagination but a larger version of the picture is a click away.

After seeing the few versions of this (quite illumating schema, diagram, divide, call to justice and decision regards the paths of life and the hi-ways to hell, this ultimate origin of ethos, piety and common sense) quietly disappear from the net over the last few years, I must break my long blogsilence and put up the one i saved (would love to credit (and converse with) the artist but can't even mention the url i found it at and saved it from (9/5 at 9.55) .

The course of conduct (walk of lif) polarization depicted .. . led up to Marx's pronouncement: 'we are all jewish now' and it's quietly adopted successor: 'we are all capitalists now', (specially after all testy flesh was spent in the world wars). The follow-ups of recent years (as the walls, gaps, gulfs and chasms grew, cleaved and yawned wider respectively) have become (correspondingly) more pronounced (in rapid succesion: 'we are all palestinians now' , 'we are all terrorists now') and prompt me to now offer a grand unified theory of psycho schlock value (that will be shamelessly exploited without a thankyou no doubt, mind you, google doesn't register even a single instance of): 'we are all schizophrenic now' ('- did not match any documents.').

kotsko replaces yesterday's conversation with half a year old one

2006-05-10T06:32:00.000-07:00

Well, ain't we happy to have preserved a few comments (posted earlier today/below).

Here's an earlier edition of the etre (eternal return . .. lbo discussion 'sein' as Heidegger saw it, a toothless stein I bet):

adamkotsko.com/weblog/..

as I'm sure patrick mullins will agree, it is scarcely evident that the Troll of Sorrow's openly racist, gay hating, woman hating, humanity hating remarks are actually anywhere near as irritating and annoying as the politely, genteelly, properly and delicately worded racism, homophobia, misogyny and antihumanity discourse that accounts for 90% of what is considered the model in blog decorum. Welcoming the naked wolf to the room full of his brothers in sheep's clothing would not seem to do much damage to the tone of the environment;, and may very well be constructive, ashis company often lures his fellows out from under their wool caps.A strong reaction to this discourse might indicate some anxiety about its appeal.One needs to look closer. You wonder if you should not guard Jewish friends from antisemitism. But of course the sound of antisemitism can be more painful to gentiles who are not antisemites, or who fear they may be, than to Jews. I find some racisms - those presently more dangerous to all of us, to humanity than antisemitism - more painful to hear than antisemitism, because they are the growls of bigger beasts right now, and if you think anti-arab racism is not going to bite you, because you are not an arab, you're quite wrong. It as already bitten; it is going to tear you up.There is something unexamined and knee jerk about this: an idea that the 'line' is clear. If it is a question of explicitness, then yes, there probably is a border everyone can agree on roughly. But surely is can't be a question of explcitiness, of vulgarity. The non explicit, the hidden, the assured, the unconscious, the racist reflexes of 'common sense,' the self-congratulatory 'tolerance' of those who believe themselves free of racism, etc etc., is the more dangerous discourse right now. In these environs, anyhow.My first day at the office in Prague on a consultancy, there was a swastika graffitied on the door. We were an imperialist mission, conquering the media. Were they calling us Nazis? Or Jews? I'd have been interested in finding out. alphonsevanworden Email Homepage 10.06.05 - 4:06 pm http://lecolonelchabert.blogspot.com

dedicated non censorious threads bandwidth and local autonomy

2006-05-10T01:57:00.000-07:00

the latter being totally outasite and ouddadawhirld dis day and age we will unfortunately need to restrict ourselves to spoofy little gestures toward the other/right thing halfway.

troll of sorrow is offered his own space

after the first 30 comments were already up I find this place and go:
aaahhhhaa hahh ahah hhhaa!! is grate of course.

so far still only one googly for "troll . .." so make that 'everybody .. this season except google for at least a few minutes bud.

implication is ruder than slander.

I love this thread idea. I had the same happen to me at the defunct graverdammer, a right wing typically non green and therefore shallow muslim watcher site.

Then he discovered that pushing my siglink pulled up mine framed by his site, that caused a recoil in horror and expulsion. The thread is at archive.org in bits and pieces cause, hey, if you're gonna puzzle manyways I might as well promise you a pleached rosebowertreehousegarden. Wait, I am going to fetch pj over at chabert (where he posted again since disavowing such so I'd not trust him if he again denies being this that or another spontaneously spoofed name) by way of nonecontrast (with habitual virtuosity.

Anyway thanks. Hope the lure/bait/leash and shackle holds him here. Saves hunting all across the internet. George Wash. Carver was a million times the man all those who fell for the raise and rise can be.
Piet | Email | Homepage | 05.09.06 - 2:11 pm | #

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Ah doubt you always recognize my comments. I have no plans to post here; nonetheless, I never was ASKING you for anything, clown. What I am telling you is, one, that I have every right to say whatever the F I want really, as long as it is not especially harassing. Thus, I shall continue to use the Net to humiliate, mock, satirize the irrational stooge known as Scott Kauffemme and others including you (kaufmouse has in fact expended far more energy than ah have at this silly game--ah suggest anyone around here to read his most recent blog-yips, which are at least violations of academic honesty, especially for a writing teacher), and that is my right, although Squat, dimwit and mental incompetent that he is, has yet to understand that: in fact ah'm putting together a lil Squat Scottmann comment generator myself (and animated show: Scottie the LIT POODLE!).
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wow. piet the deranged poet maudit! yr even a mockery of whatever remains viable of marxist theory. u don't have shit on me; "pj" who ever that be, doesn't have shittete on moi. I got shietee on thee, tho, Bukharinista. Yr the rightists, like bookarin hisself--ah'm mostly a secularist and empiricist--u the one taking sides with theists here, clown. Yr not in charge of communications, frauds. Even "Colonel" with all of her sentimental blatherings, has enough non-Bookarin and anarchista heart to realize that.
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well, i'm not even halfway through and gotta say sumthin again. Nice colours by the way. Tadday I leafed through a year report of the rockefeller fondlenation, you know, that lackey of the rothschild toolifeforyoojoocroo. And hey they can mouth and print them fine word cause the great big eraser and ubiquitous equalizers (we all mercurians now) makes all words that don't do what beckerath recommended doing in berlin crisis years as loom now poorhips futile empty and preempted. Once they take the shape form and function of zerstuckeltes microcredit we can pourhopes fungibe some more. Plagiarism is weak peanotsee.
Piet | Email | Homepage | 05.09.06 - 2:32 pm | #

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If I don't always recognize your comments, find me a comment on this site, since the ban went into effect, that is from you and that was not deleted.
Adam Kotsko | Email | Homepage | 05.09.06 - 2:35 pm | #

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Yr missing the point. The "ban": what a laugh. Ah not like obsessed with this site, PaddyCo; us seem obsessed with my few posts. ah make a few remarks here and there, pointing out some silly assumption or bia, u usually delete it, like the good Fed snitch you wannabe.

like the Poodlemann you don't even begin to realize the extent of your confusion. Even some ugly empiricism--say Locke-- might help, but ah doubt it.

Anyways, ah'm through here, really. Jus' close the thread then and ah shan't be back too much. So, close the thread, and end it, and ah SHAN"T return: except, say, once or twice on weekends.

(That's right pietster: nazis and stalinists generally start by controlling communi-ma-cations)
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Fine, we'll give it a try. There is no way to turn off comments on a particular thread, so I respectfully ask everyone to refrain from leaving comments.
Adam Kotsko | Email | Homepage | 05.09.06 - 2:57 pm | #

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I used to get quite mad during 99-02 for being erased and started homepages bycause of it, then the fun was to slightly obscure the comments spliced into the quotes at accupunctual rates. These kids are getting you too mad and that's a big help leaving you too little time to take a wallop generous enough to begin understanding the likes of me it seems.

Nazis and stalinists start wresting for the control of communications? Yes, but too bad they have to be so rude and crude don't you think? You're a music man right? ever heard Goebbels' band do the american style music from the 20s making fun of the english? The dutch have been deaf to 20 years of grim shots so the task of sounding zee all arm is awaiting, all charm subdude, straight patient and all
Piet | Email | Homepage | 05.09.06 - 3:14 pm | #

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must music lead to bombs or can it kindle compostage (age of its coming of age on stage). Anybody know a fine pacifistnazionoted turd site I could continue wasting my time at?
Piet | Email | Homepage | 05.09.06 - 3:19 pm | #

someone responded, so I shall respond briefly in kind.

Piettte, stick to the Rimbaud and CO: no ah'm not musico, nor am I mad or irked: rather amused. I like to read clownspeak, especially when done by a great lil' clown like Squrt Squatmunn. You see him, er, it, and his leetle pals in their POODLE suits; and maybe u shall shortly.

But the great faux pas here is you siding with the Weblog Cadets and their meyer lansky-lite palskis. Fer shame, poette.
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censorious pick off snipery vs contained experiments

2006-05-10T00:02:00.000-07:00

In this day and age of nasty uniformity we must be brief on the latter due to a shortage of examples. I suggest you try read some Beckerath (not that he got anybody going) as I do not tire of telling you .. .whenever I emerge from tired of telling you anythingness that is.

Apotheosis (yet another instance) of the classic 'preaching to the choir desire' -- this time starring Louis Proyect, Dennis Perrin, the leninologyspotted blog and marccooper as the ratty prosecutors and stone casters with those (sorta clumsily) asking to crumble them after humblin' themselves enough to wonder if there could possibly be a reason for such last wishes beyond self preservation(montages) and ‘mpug’ (libero) -- coming right up (after that what led up to this) :

At one point things seemed to settle down honkidorily (that is, mikey posts a link, Doug reads it and comments):

radicalsociety.com/article_32_01_01.html
In which George Packer says:

>First of all, I never took a stand on the war in public, so that I
>could have actually faked it in my book and said, "In fact, I
>actually decided on that night of March 19 that I was against the
>war." No one would have known the difference because I hadn't come
>out in favor of it. I'm somehow being punished for having told
>readers, long after it became a very unpopular cause, what I was
>thinking. I thought I owed it to the reader because I'm a citizen
>too. But in a way it's irrelevant. That's not the position I'm in.
>That's not my role. My role was to chronicle, to understand, to
>perceive. Remember that the chroniclers of the Vietnam War, like
>Halberstam and Sheehan-the best ones-were pro-war when they went to
>Vietnam, and they'll say that in their books. They then went to see
>and gradually began to feel that the war, whether or not it could
>have been won in the beginning, was not being won, and they began to
>ask why wasn't it being won, and what did that say about us and what
>did it say about Vietnam; and in the end Sheehan believed that it
>couldn't have been won from the beginning because it was a war of
>Vietnamese nationalism. I don't think Iraq is the same in that way,
>but what's interesting is the change in our political culture, where
>someone in my position, who is essentially doing the same thing, is
>required to issue an apology or a mea culpa. That's recent. That's
>about the culture wars and the Clinton wars and the Bush wars. It's
>not about Iraq.

To which I can only say, fuck George Packer. Just before the war
started, that little creep made fun of Liza for being a naive leftist
for opposing the invasion. He deserves a lot more than being forced
to utter a mea culpa.

Doug

Piet:
things appear ok again but then that damn lenin has to repeat the words with which Perrin slandered poor puggie and a liddul ladur (next post in fact, proving my warning to have been of no avail) this:

http://mailman.lbo-talk.org/pipermail/lbo-talk/ Week-of-Mon-20060501/037637.html

Michael: For Dennis,
http://iowahawk.typepad.com/iowahawk/ 2006/05/juan_cole_the_f.html
Smooches from the Pooches

Dennis Perrin wrote: Laborious, contrived, and right up your alley, asshole.

last substantial contribution leading up to that jilt:

http://mailman.lbo-talk.org/pipermail/lbo-talk /Week-of-Mon-20060501/037605.html

Michael, you seem to be on permanent halo busting detail.

During the US invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq,
Robert Fisk's name came up a lot because at the time
his reports were often linked and excerpted.

You scanned the broad vistas of the Internet to find
whatever counter Fisk articles were available.

More recently, the question of Chomsky's alleged
downplaying of Pol Pot's crimes was discussed. Thanks
to you, I was exposed (via links) to a torrent of
rambling, anit-Chomsky blog posts from all sorts of
odd axe grinders.

And now, you're trying to tell us - via this Weintraub
piece - that Juan Cole's tussle with Hitchens is much
ado about nothing - or worse, an example of Cole's
duplicitousness.

Whenever your bete noir, Chris Doss, mentions, even in
passing, that the peoples of the CIS have mixed
feelings about the Stalin era we can look forward to
an avalanche of URIs about Stalin's crimes.

As if we don't know.

I suspect that if I were ever to become famous and
popular, you'd dive deep into the archives of LBO and
my blog to locate material demonstrating my perfidy.

A simple question occurs: what are you going on about
here?

Are we to believe that Weintraub's 3,577 words add up
to a refutation of Cole's primary point: Hitchens is
performing character assassination jobs for the right?

And you compound your error by responding to Doug's
query with still more links - all intended to make
Cole look shady.

See, here's what I'm driving at...

In West Philly, where I grew up, I'd sometimes find
myself in fights. Strategic viciousness was often
required. For example, I threw a particularly
dangerous bastard down a flight of steps and leapt on
his mellon-sized head to drive my point home (the
point being, stop fucking with me muthafucka).

During these conflicts, my bros always had my back.

We might argue amongst ourselves on sunny days when
the threat level was low but when the shit started we
put pettiness aside and got to work defending our
right to be left the hell alone.

Bro, we are under fire; the shit has started and you
are taking potshots at allies near and far.

If you were with me back in the day and had punked us
the way you're punking folks you should be critiquing
(because no one's perfect) but, nonetheless,
expressing solidarity with we would've considered you
a hindrance - at best - and maybe a problem that
needed solving.

In short, what the fuck are you up to?
.d. -------- "It's a simple equation folks. Prostitution, divided by Hotels, equals dead Elves."

Olly

.. ..and this:

Dwayne and y'all...even those who call me a shit, whatever mh
called me recently, even CB who has a
trouserpress.com/entry.php?a=trotsky_icepick waiting for me ;-)
There are 'tudes expressed here only slightly less loony than what
I've heard since the late 70's on Pacifica Radio on everything from DU
and the fSU and beyond that go unchallanged...example, John Mage
recently wishing the Red Army had conquered Western Europe. That, for
one such as I, compulsive-obsessive that I am, w/ boxes of copies of
The New Masses and The Nation from the 30's and 40's and having talked
w/many an old Communist, Trotskyist or Socialist active over those
decades, most of whom remained on the Left but, w/o much cavilling
admitted that most if not all of the case by those dreaded Trots and
liberal anti-Communists was correct, can only fly into one of manic
URL burst here. (Which I do far less than I used to, no? I mean there
comes a point you just say, CD, CB, just like I have their entrenched
'tudes and let it be...)
My broader 'tude towards Fisk and Fisking, well, I read a bit of
his huge book, was more impressed than I thought I'd be but, would
agree w/ the review in the Nation that drew some blood. Behind my
"Left Activist Consensus Mileau, " says X well I'll just say anti-X is
a ornerniness yes but, also (citing that Walter Lippman Castrofile on
marxmail recently who couldn't get his activist friends to read the
new book by Steven Kinzer, "Overthrow, " a left-liberal book blurbed
by Sy Hersh and Chalmers Johnson 'cuz they said he was
pro-Contra...when he wasn't!) a rage/despair against activists that
latch onto ONE journalist or expert and never read anyone else or look
for critiques.

I didn't know I was a bete noire, but I think
something of this is tied into thinking that a person
in the CIS who has positive feelings toward Stalin is
somehow comparable to some nut waving a Stalin
portrait in a demonstration in San Francisco.

It's not. Old people here actually lived through the
Stalin era. They were in the War. They lived through
the Seige of Leningrad and the Battle of Stalingrand.
Stalin was their hero -- the battlecry was "Za Rodinu,
za Stalina!" (For the Motherland, for Stalin!"). They
were shot at by fucking machine-guns and had their
villages burned to the ground and all the women in
their families raped and they sometimes lived via
cannibalism. And they saved civilization while they
were at it. Good God, how could a little small-minded
amoral prick like Pug possibly understand that? His
major complaint seems to be something like "oh no,
those people in the CPSU said bad things to me once,
my feelings got hurt, boo-hoo, boo-hoo."

Come to think of it, Victory Day (the main Russian
holiday, celebrating the end of the Great Patriotic
War) is tomorrow. I will spend the day thinking solemn
thoughts and smiling with gratitude at all the old men
wearing their Soviet medals I pass on the street.

--- Dwayne Monroe wrote:
Whenever your bete noir, Chris Doss, mentions, even in
passing, that the peoples of the CIS have mixed
feelings about the Stalin era we can look forward to
an avalanche of URIs about Stalin's crimes.

As if we don't know.

Dwayne Monroe wrote:

>In short, what the fuck are you up to?

Good question. Michael seems to have crossed a line from questioning
leftist cant to embracing ruling class apologetics. The first is a
valuable service - I get a lot of pleasure out of doing it myself.
The second, though - well, there's a plentiful supply of it and I
don't see why we need any more.

Doug

follow up:

-037644 Big overreaction, and Doug succumbed too easily, IMO, to the necktie party
which had formed. I disagree with MP on many things and I still haven't
decided whether he is deliberately or just innocently provocative, but I
could say the same about a lot of people I've clashed with politically over
the years. So what? We should be wary of circumscribing the boundries of
"permissable" political opinion so tightly; we're not in a life and death struggle against a counter-revolution, and even if we were, history suggests
revolutions can too easily strangle themselves through the overzealous
pursuit of heretics. Michaels's "crime" was to align himself with some
oleogenous critics of Yoshie and Juan Cole and it was proper for to call him
to order on that, as I and others did. Then we should have moved on to more
important things rather than getting involved, as we used to tell our son
when he'd throw a fit, in "a game of uproar". – Marvin Gandall

Hey, I didn't throw him off, and I wouldn't have.

Doug

oops, once again, he stormed off himself and Doug left this fact, once again, veiled enough to stir the a jumpy conclusionist .. . .mmm, I can think of pleasanter scenarios for the eternal return. Klossowski on Nietzsche anybody?

OK. Now for what went before:

http://leninology..pomaded-lardies-on-shit-flinging-binge.html/
About Yoshie - "By the way, this vexatious wheedle was passed to Marc Cooper by a particularly obnoxious character who frequents Doug Henwood's left-wing mailing list, 'LBO Talk', called Michael Pugliese. Sleazy, sneaky little fucker, don't you think?"

haloscan.com/comments/lenin/..33450#245026
Mike a sleazy and whatever else you care (NOT) to call him?

You are a hair and soul splitting mister know all mudministry mysteries in the book aren't you? You are 2 of a kind in my eyes except mikey is too poor to rant fullofftime like you can and never telling how that came about right? Myster sneaky linealonelyan yourself buddy.

Lenin obviously likes sneering at people who are overweight in the west but only shows indifference to the malnurished and starving in Sudan.

Nice guy.
Sandy 4 May, 11:39 #

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Much like tim / Sandy, who shows indifference to the malnourished and starving in any country that the West doesn't want to invade and pillage, I'm sorry, "free market reforms".

As to piet's latest... is he Francis E. Dec under an assumed name?

pacifier.com/~dkossy/dec.html
Heather B. 4 May, 11:44 #

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here I am, all prepared to go search a bleak thin and emaciated ref to a kindred spirit but lo and behold, his name in fat font right atop and no slimmer this: 'FRANCIS E. DEC, ESQUIRE:
YOUR ONLY HOPE FOR A FUTURE!'

so far so good.

next i remember this site has featured Oscar Kiss Maerth (first author I made an effort to trace (in the flesh back in those days).

excuse me a minnit while i read on.
piet Homepage 4 May, 12:19 #

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ps: I made it into this collection: ratbags.com/ but hey, some folks think that making fun and light of weightiest darkmost grave and serious matters qualifies them as whorlchimps or sumthin.
piet Homepage 4 May, 12:26

not much else left to chop is there? when patrism and/or climate change (talk about circulo vicioso) has turned a place that bleak I'd prefer to look upon them choppers as patients and victims who thrive and multiply when western choppers with that stolen name drone around.

lbo-talk.org../037079.html beginning of a looooooooooong thread concerning all this

MPug quoting LouisP pointing to MP:

>…He got a head’s up on Yoshie’s articles from a character named Michael Pugliese who doesn’t have the guts to join the FBI outright but prefers to snoop on people as an unpaid volunteer.

. .. so .. .anybody got an accurate cite rather than the (misspelled) 'head's up'? .. ... ps: found it later and it’s a shameful slur

hey, that's funny, at the cooper convo (site section 'its-those-jews-again/') the word establishment shows up 19 times (observation valid between about 4AM US ((ChrisD post)) and 15.35 continental eurotime). Funny that .. . after I looked for news of an interesting Hamas ideologue/functionary .. no wait I can do better than that, an establishment Pali Bassam Jarrar who wrote a book on the role of 19 in accurate calendarizing and using gematria to reflect the amounts and measures of time flowing past in the described passage (thought to be a means to stop falsification and making the messenger look good no doubt) and was taken into custody last september.

lenin/114667009623597690/?a=38653#245052

sorry that was 5.15AM and now is 15.55
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Dennis Perrin: And, Yosh, the subject line I chose should clue you in on how I feel about MPug's scurrying over to of all people Marc Cooper. I trust the troll
feeding over there will intensify soon.

I am not sure if he beat Proyect to it or not but saying 'MPug Rats Out Yoshie To Cooper' certainly shows lockstep. Hell, I've posted on extreme right wing sites. What diff does it make to the internal consistency (or non-)? What you left moving right shows up again where you think you're heading if you do so long and far enough.

http://037141.html Mikey makes 'm all look stupid (see previous post too, it's him on sudan in 2004)

and here he is finally, main event and thanks for waiting:
http://...20060501/037130.html Mikey in his very own inimitable style. Consigliere Pugliese here w/ a hurried reply, probably w/ little ofnumerous thoughts and feelings of the last hourthinking about this thread, an offlist e-mail from Julio Huato. Myambivalent, conflicted political identity these last few yrs.(alwaysnot far under the surface memories good and bad, of radical actions ofthe US flag burning and US military base and nuke plant propertydestruction kind) and associations w/ remants of the WeatherUnderground ala PFOC and assorted scurrilous and scholarlyTrotskyists, neo-Maoists, punk anarchists and yes, CB, even CPUSA andex-CPUSA. (More than a few like Bill Sennett, late of the LincolnBrigades and leadership in the Illinois CP, had little troubleadmitting Julius Rosenberg, etc. were spies, doing their proletarianinternationalist duty and would agree w/ the substance of a Trotskyistcritique of Stalinism [or Paul Sweezy's circa 1980], but, would saycomparing the strength of the CPUSA (80K members late 30's vs. 1K, atmost for the SWP and its splits a 'brewin' same period.) But, I rambleavoiding the thread subject ;-) If MRzine means to reach beyond its small audience(Circa 1990, in a small meeting w/ Bob Wing, ex-cadre of Line ofMarch, now w/ UfPJ, which Yoshie seems to have left in disgust, hereviewed w/ us in CCDS, FRSO, Solidarity, DSA, SF Women's Bldg., circulation figures for MR and a dozen other longtime radical leftjournals, all of them in parlous states.) and it was public material, then (albeit defensively) I'd agree w/ Max that what Yoshie and herrespondents on haloscan comment sections said was fair game. (Hitchensbroadcasting the Juan Cole Gulf2000 Gary Sick list translations of theIranian Pres. w/ dreamy eyes on Slate was a low blow.) Why did I send to Cooper's blog? None of my Darfur posts having beenreplied to here and full of bile I sent them there. Though in person awuss who has rarely shouted, get this keypad in front of me and I'mprone to do mayhem...'cuz yes, I do like stirring up shit from afarthat I run away from in personal life, whether familial, w/friends orin the white collar factories I make a sporadic income in. (And thatfill me w/ anger reminding me that whatever my despair about the USLeft in all its ineffectiveness, shallowness and silliness http://www.zombietime.com/hall_of_shame/ it emeges out of realinjustices that mainstream upper class liberal Democrats cannot andwill not touch.) Cooper, at least has the virtue of not avoidingsubjects like Castroism or ANSWER , that Daniel Lazare avoid or demogogue, http://www.thenation.com/doc/20060403/exchange . For example thoughThe Nation Books has reissued a classic Left critique of the CubanRevo. by Jorge Edwards, "Persona Non Grata, " that Cooper recommends,how many here would even pick it up?

warning: some folks call MPug 'formattingchallenged' but his priorities lie with reading loads and fast as all too good for peasantry division of labour loving castle occupants must. He has taken to calling himself consigliere. He's as many miles away from understanding people like me as you are myster Leningulagist.

Time for the encore (a link to what I mentioned at the beginning):

ToS holds forth and converses with chabert and here are the relevant bits I tossed in:

paging pj

http://www.adamkotsko.com/weblog/2006/05/troll-of-sorrow-open-thread.html

9:16 PM
Anonymous said...
"pj" ain't gonna help ya, clown.

pj and the Tos (or who u take to be ToS) are not pals or cronies; but ToS is generally cordial to the gent, as he is generally to moi. And pj's no marxist scavenger. But scurry over and help the sunday-schoolers at Weblog: those are the rightists

Yr in need of help, piet; ah suggest for starters, u put down the bukharin primer....

9:35 PM
............. said...
and Miss LCC:

I am not using your boards to stir up more phlames, but ah noted that Mssr. Piet hisself has the bellows out, and responded in kind. It's another flare-up of "Ah wannabe a Fed" typical of the weblog narcissists and some of their palskis. WordCrime is the topic du jour, like usual: but anyways ah'm finished here too, since your few anarchista posts seem mostly absent. Whatevah

if you want to rant at censorship and demonization of what is considered overzealous gathering and presenting the other side, in this case by a gregarious speedreader hypesurfer named Michael Pugliese (whom I have many pov changes to thank for) I suggest you target Dennis Perrin (redstateson), Louis Proyect (marxmail) and lenineuloshits (instead of 'm younguns), whose combined mobbing has succeeded harassing MP off the lbo list again where he'd already made himself pretty scarce after a flair-up over some english pro-serbian writer. I shall make a post for it at indexterity shortly.

9:01 AM

.. .at 10.44 I write: that took for ever didn't it (no wonder even digitaloid bodies can't keep on being patient with poo' rockmudmanme).

Signs of life and sorry excuses.

2006-04-20T03:07:00.000-07:00

http://www.epwijnants-lectures.com/harabr.htmlApril 17, 2006: From Hitler to the "Arab Reich."
http://sociologyesoscience.com/fascistrel2.html"Hitler is describing himself as akin to a spiritualist medium like Madame Blavatsky" (New York University Press, Hitler's Millennial Reich by David Redles, p. 150). The Nazi Documents P.2: Volkisch Myth.
http://sociologyesoscience.com/fascistrel3.html

.. .lined up for a read. It mentions protocols, bolshevism and dostojevski ... Wijnants proves protective of jews as usual, he keeps these worldchamp schemers 'out of the wind' (as the dutch have it) way more than they merit. Enough to make anyone doing so jewish. He links to the hysterically and over the top type of biasburdened thereligionofpeace.com/ . .. had to laugh though, a protest sign (with a caption 'gave peace a chance') shown there has the twin towers flanked by 2 peace symbols on either side, tilted (the right one left and the left one right) so as to look like planes in a bubble. The caption ).

Ps: Sorry about the idleness of this blog but my possesions are in storage (digital household scattered, erased ((lycos.nl)) and the aim to get them out of there and in/onto a purchased/rented tranquil/restive and inviting chunk of real estate where I can beautify and eventually die is proving frustratingly well off the mark so far (still hoping it is not chronically so). Meanwhile, mobile as ever .. .

A MUSIC and MATRICES post (folk and revisiting 'tortugans')

2005-12-21T11:43:00.000-08:00

Todd Rundgren and (the late) Elliot Smith coming up but first a good music search site:

http://audio.search.yahoo.com Ken Waldman
Sam bush plays stingray off his glamour and grits album on folkalleyapril04too.htm includes folk around the web section

FOLK TUNES i LOVE :
shady Grove by Chesapeake the rankin family FROM turn that boat around
caroline herring Song: Standing in the Water Album: Twilight
Artist: Douglas/Barenberg/Meyer ---- Song: The Earl of Hyndford/Open the Prese ---- Album: Skip, Hop and Wobble
Bill Whelan --- Song: Timedance --- Album: The Roots of Riverdance
Donna Hughes — My Poor Old Heart RunningDog 003
Stephen Fearing — The Lark/Robert's Waterloo Red House
Solas — Dougie MacDonald's Medley Shanachie
Rani Arbo & Daisy Mayhem — Big Black Bird Signature
'Short Trip Home' by Joshua Bell/Edgar Meyer/Sam Bush/Mike Marshall
checked through my files down to may04 (alphab.)

tod rundgren is trying to commit suicide too but since he wants/ed to go by psychedelics he fails/ed -- don't give acid head too many electronic toys if they have the instant by speed of sound satisfactiable disposition; we have enough luftwurzlers glutting the market as it is, they fucking scrape and stink along the bottom rungs of run off sin as it is. ==

wikipedia says: Rundgren's music video for the song "Time Heals" was the second video to be aired on MTV. He has had a pioneering involvement with music video and computing and was the co-developer of the computer screensaver system Flowfazer. He also designed the first Paint program for the Apple computer. moogymusic.com/CDs/freecreek.html
more songsamples near the end of the page

http://trconnection.com/toddcast#toddcast0007 more than is good for anyone and since we're in dry and dread symmetry land let me say this too: less than good for everybody, most files double digit MB, a dramatic one that gives you more than enough of the co-dependency flavors on offer between the energy maffia and the superficial addicts like todd rundgren who hasn't a clue about nature beyond an intellectual grasp.http://trconnection.com/toddcast/toddcast0006.mp3 Happenings sixty years time ago - no dialog -just music- Hiroshima by Utopia. By the way, the song has it wrong, The bomb was dropped August 6, 1945 on Hiroshima and August 9, 1945 on Nagasaki. Japan surrendered August 14, VJ day is celebrated August 15.

http://forums.tortuga.com/posting.php?mode=reply&t=246 earth wizard discussion - Red Resonant Earth, a key revolutionary spell now/here?

I'm in same situ as thread initator

what turns me of about this movement is similar to what bothers me about rainbow family in general:

balmy words, endless repetitions going round in too tight a set of circles including fossil fuels, lots of print and little real community.

then on the other hand there is the flirtation with Quran which goes right well with all the bloodthirsty Mayan history we can see on National Geographic the other day a dramatized docu led by someone narrating in german (Grube?)

.. .. I guess all the permaculture heaven we 'sposed to be working on disappears in or is displaced by the yawning black hole wedged into between these foolish and forceful extremes.

http://www.nammys.com/ story time (native american music awards)

http://forums.tortuga.com/viewtopic.php?p=1000#1000 13 Moon Calendar Discussion -- thirteen tones and music

shoutcast lists 555 stations under folk but lots of them play mixtures, it lists capacity and amount listening, truly neat feature

http://www.folkradio.nl/ (down when I tried the first time)

http://www.rismixlive.com/listen.asp
http://www.t1700.net/

http://radio.macinmind.com/

http://www.wholewheatradio.org/

http://www.audiocandy.com/primeartists/body.htm 11 ways to hook up to this one (commercial of course but they play decent stuff)

seahaas.com/toddrundgren/main.html

seahaas.com/toddrundgren/the12daysofchristmas.mp3

seahaas.com/toddrundgren/sweet.html funny images

seahaas.com/toddrundgren/toddwavs.html snippets of his hits (includes the lyrics dark blue on black)

seahaas.com/toddrundgren/interfel.wav proof the man has done biased if not burnt the head/hand connection in favor of the typical acid head hopescope blow up out and away - but for all their quick fix intelligence and ability to attract attention (in dutch the expression is: to cause clouds of dust), they couldn't think their way clear and see the greater (longer term, more eco, etcetera) use of making enough dust themselves to write their own name; here are the lyrics one hears during the clip: ...."International Feel....and there's more, interplanetary deals...but there's more, interstellar appeal...still there's more, universal ideal...still there's more, international feel"...

http://trconnection.com/ToddCast

fuck the bureaucrats trying to make things work on paper and their cleverly commercial little coup d'oeil leonardoid analytic artistry.

We need road signs and equipment to navigate away from the all too broad and narrow road.

We don't like hyper articifical civilization on one side with industry, pollution overpopulation and slavery, nor savagery on the other. We want to work on a happy medium in the middle.

Do I like fish? Do I like netting? Do I hate culturingnets? Do I approve of symbol farmcenters? Do I hate tall towers? No. I would have liked to see one of the dozen Marxian spearpoints to be reality by now, the phasing out of cities, as people fuse with the countryside, agricultural mechanization, so creepily harmful via compaction and erosion, a success. Is it too late to legislate all tall buildings need to be surrounded by as many little permaculture gardens as there are people working in them and they must be left enough time to do the needful. So, transplant and space them already.

www.earthmatrix.com/forum

Coe, Michael D. The Maya, 6th ed. Thames and Hudson, 1999. Martin, Simon, and Nikolai Grube. Chronicle of the Maya Kings and Queens. Thames and Hudson, 2000. found here:http://magma.nationalgeographic.com/ngm/0411/feature2/

elliot smith (very gently voiced suicide rocker heard on dutch radio)

radio from santa monica
kcrw.org/..date=10/25/03&tmplt_type=show
Elliott Smith tribute (here he sounds pre heroin alrite if excessively laid back; had he had less coarse features he would have gone for a sex change I am sure)

my pricker is the kicker (inspiration via ES' last interview undertheradarmag.com/es.html once at the bottom you may read stuff that didn't make the mag; ES died at age 34)

elliottsmith.com/video.html they are reaming out the pipe and pump for you at the mo

somesongs.net/ a site with torrents, via trashtreasury.com/html/links.html

quoting Eric Wijnants

2005-12-09T04:25:00.000-08:00

http://sociologyesoscience.com/islconf.html
Islam thought the ‘Arabs’, nomads at the time, in need of subjugation. The ‘shari’ah, was to base the legal code of the new faith on the more fluid tribal legal system, or ‘urf’.

Zionism was a spontaneous ‘non-governmental’ organization concerned about the rise of anti-Semitism in Europe. The social experiment called the ‘kibbutz’ system, however was not to survive the changes in Israeli society of the 1960-70’s.

But when Ahmadinejad said that Israel when sanctioned by the U.N., "took islamic land” (in fact they bought it, and were given the land rights by a Muslim ruler), one also could argue that Muslims took Mesopotamia, Syria, Turkey, Egypt...

Neither were Arabs entirely innocent in the Holocaust when Haj Amin el-Husseini, mufti of Jerusalem, likened Nazism to Islam in a speech to the Bosnian SS division, the Handschar. Balkan and Soviet Muslims took part in massacring Jews as part of the Einsatzgruppen. And the mufti of Jerusalem finally negotiated with Hitler about extending the Holocaust to the Jews living in the Arab countries, and effectively prevented the release of Jews, including thousands of children. (See: L Hirszowicz, Third Reich and the Arab East,J Schechtman, The Mufti and the Fuehrer, Anwar Sadat, Revolt on the Nile.)

Three days ago Gulf News commented about Ahmadinejad earlier claim that he felt light around his head during a speach at the U.N.

Did the "Hidden Imam" send a flash signal to Iran's President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad while he was addressing the United Nations last September? Is the new president assisted by an army of djins and angels?

These and similar questions are now all the rage in Tehran. Designed as part of a campaign of character assassination against Ahmadinejad, they do not come from secularists or atheists who do not believe in the "Hidden Imam" or dijns and angels.

The architects of this campaign are mullahs in the Rafsanjani-Khatami faction that Ahmadinejad defeated in last summer's election.
Aimed at portraying the new president as a mentally imbalanced individual suffering from visions and hallucinations, the campaign replaces an earlier one in which Ahmadinejad was presented as a "terrorist and hostage-taker".

comment crowds

2005-11-29T08:34:00.000-08:00

Mary at http://peacepalestine.blogspot.com remarks on her comment section 'getting crowded'

crowded Mary?

you ought to thank your 'coremore' for not running into the comment crews on various indmedia flavors (like sf, vancouver ((archives still online)), victoria, several Middle eastern ones ((buckled and caved from chronic spammerage)), melbourne, indybay . . and pittsburgh lately for instance) several years ago; veritable torrents of emotides on anything from the democratization of tyrranicide (suggested with such forceful ((encryption)) logic that the perp (who called it 'assasination politics' had ! his compi confiscated etcetera) to the price of pretty innocence, all lavishly spiced and periodically sprinkled with huge slabs of text (which haloscan wisely prohibits). Nothing here that hasn't been there already and with much deeper shadow dancing.

I'll be posting a much more elaborate and colourful version at http://compostartist.blogspot.com in a minute

time for a little french beauty after all that nastyness

2005-11-20T12:31:00.000-08:00

pyrenees/boubou/bout.html

autoconstruction/pyrenees/arize.html

CABIN FEVER - WOODEN

SHELTERING GALORE;

EMBEDDING-

DOWNtoEARTHiNESS -

i'VE GONE THROUGH

ALL 50 PAGES OF

http://images.google.nl/

images?q=archilibre

980 PICTURES -

it's been too long

since I posted this site

revisionist and their nonvisionary watchers

2005-11-20T11:20:00.000-08:00

/025240 Michael Pugliese --- he continues posting segments of a long article by Ian Williams in this part of the thread (first installment) which by the way, strange enough, google hasn't indexed yet (the content of it I mean, lending much credence to the google-watchman Brandt's criticism, though google of course is not, like he says 'dying') .. . .all the more remarkably (not to say alarming) since it appears to be this 2 year old piece: http://citycellar.com/BalkanWitness/hoare.htm The Left Revisionists (359 google hits) - By Marko Attila Hoare - November 2003 ---

ps: there are 97.100 results for "michael pugliese" (excluding the word 'music' might reduce the chore a bit, nope, .. .still 89.200). -----

Excellent example of Michael's totally useless sectarianological expertise

When is this kid gonna learn to be principled instead of looking for at and after failed heros??????

Principles don't need mouthpieces so much as (awareness of, then catalytic action conform to their relatively timeless) practices, failing that they tend to do very well and much better without humans around fucking with them.

Plenny more here: http://members.lycos.nl/vadercats/logbriefer.htm

BombSheLLLilac part 2

2005-11-18T04:43:00.000-08:00

This item can be seen (later today) in multicolour here: http://members.lycos.nl/vadercats/logbriefer.htm My beloved Netscape browser use has been frustrated since yesterday so direct transposition from Frontpage is now impossible (due to non-reciprocity by the likes of Bill Gates or worse I don't know, a re-install didn't help).

Last week's item 11/11/ 'riding the cresting wave of uncontainable discontent' at this blog showing 'BombShellLilac' unworried, acting as if the bomb was exciting enough to look her best and she could reign run (and ruin) it even with some flimsy straps OK -- needs a little fleshing out.

Since then the Bitch has passed the 33 comments on one item of her own blog mark for the first time though she had to stoop to damn near dismemberment (luckily no worse than in the sense of singling out and the not literality of luxury) to achieve it.

She never directly referred nor responded to that (illustrated) item I had announced as written for her explicitly (she even offed an off-topic comment about an offed left winger, search seveke lieshout intel.web-log) but since 2 items later Butler and Shame serve for anchors I think I am going to remind her of what's been taken in consideration and has passed review too little so far.

Here we go:
You turned back from the bomb to the biological fleshedent, a more lovable way to war with, wag instead of wage it, bonobo like right?
I in turn ought to search for the antecedents of the lass in rock, back far enough so the sheer weight of it, ancestral authority wise, even the raw materials for bomb stay scattered and buried within it, and besides not getting out of, let alone up off the ground, better choices might be found, the ones that abort bombboostics or at least stop them from rising to the heights of bias and betrayal, inadmissible selfloathing, etcetera, in the process of hi-jacking the whole goddess blessed evolutionary train chain trails and trials of glory.

Look at her (ega's e)go
Look at her again with evolution in mind. Where did she come from? Taking it in kind, unmediated, non 'sleazygoic' (clever, hot or deceptive? Survival of the 'fitchyest'? THe cleavage that cleaves the gap between rich and poor?).

Perhaps she ain't really riding traladida but bound, strapped, shackled and enslaved to it, about to be born to her demise perhaps even (shades of Gravity's Rainbow), . Purrhips she ain't pretty under a rubber skintight mask .. . and the sacrifices she (was made to) make to get the bomb that big .. . . with the height of salesmanship jumping around both of them .. .. it's enough to buckle under even before all ill will and 'roostreadying' release, unleashment and breaking(news((?)))point (of sales((c))ale or s((h))ellingpoint) can generate at more and more distant destination (said to have provoked the turn of patriarchy's unloving arms from their default deterrent setup into last resort threat true making); the effects of which remain untold under tightestly closed fold and horrendous for generations to come!!!!!

All weak watery and kindly sharing per local race (always a different and lotsa little testy spectacle whizzing by), the chatter spatter and crunch of structured water ends up sacrificed by this bomb(BL)ast.

Pump my read
Assuming young pretty things have any choice in the matter of wether or not to get onboard shiny new things, the ones that do are somehow convinced sleazygoic rides are smart, selfmade, clever and their just deserts.

The 'buy me' (sell yourself) pitch pictures and implies if not reflects voluntary and mutual benefit between the bomb(constructors) and her. Love your bomb(based way of life) and get better girls. She: I bleed for a bomb so you bleed for a bomb if you wanna get next to me, can't buy (the likes of) me unless your bomb affords me a little elbowroom (note how they stick out). She doesn't mind being objectified along with other manipulables cause patriarchy is insurmountable nor dismantleable. What does she stand to lose going this route? Is this the most powerful position she can expect to achieve and assume?

Maskette of patriarchy triumphant.
Does that make islam (patriarchy par excellence and heir apparant) appear the more decent version of christianity? Yes, to the extent they denounce imperialism with proof positive: privatization of violence (dunno any islamic nations without armies though but I sure as hell believed Saddam when he said he had no weapons and complied with int. agreements), as undelegable as periodic bog visits. What to gain from a suicide mission? How is this a variant of love for greater good? How does the rocket manned by gay designer's lover in Gravity's Rainbow play along here? What about the use it and lose it selfdefeat of all collective rather than cool active emotion?

Every nice girl a georgeous bomb, all pretty ladies a blog, most a private bog, each one an intimate compostage licking flickturn trick lesson; all of them a beautiful farewell video:
'hello, I want you all to know, where I am things are just too slow, it's a sickening no go show, but I am sure my fortunes lie right where I go'.

In a macho world of steel and dominance, the beau's other significates explosively with lots of down time in between.

Project present as cryptic escape from censure
projectile (a verb in dutch) presents to gain goodwill

Mothers tired and ugly from (employment)ties to and with the bomb are promised better days after the deployment.
Women love presents as sacred passdeed and prelude to her relaxation and suitor's engorgement.
Women hate poision as secret pissweird to a runaway trainload of stuff that can't but per-, in- an subvert intimacy with substitute, consu- and sublimate, surrogate cleft, spoofed, split and asundered reality of im- and omnipotence.

miscellany (environment, indexing, patriarchy proves actionable by illiterate)

2005-11-15T07:39:00.000-08:00

commonsblog.org/archives/000576.php on Jared Diamond (plenny of juicy links, here's one):
http://rdrutherford.blogspot.com/2005/10/one-island-two-worldshispaniola.html a commenter's long look at the Hispaniola chapter (questioning Diamond's damnation of the french)

jennifermarohasy.com/blog/archives/000790.html August 11, 2005 -- On Jared Diamond and Environmental Law -- this is the kind of blogger I am finding so dishearteningly few of.

jennifermarohasy.com/blog/archives/000986.html on the radical right (includes a respectable amount of commmenters)

simpleton.com/20050202.html on Finnegans wake

http://robotwisdom.com/ai/thicketfaq.html An Overview of 'Fractal Thicket' Indexing --- Jorn Barger .. pointed to from here: http://robotwisdom2.blogspot.com/2005/11/im-idiot-about-rdf-gtd-edition.html

http://newswire.indymedia.org/en/2005/11/827937.shtml
Does Increasing Public Awareness of the Anti-Globalization Movement Affect it's Growth? (Case Study of the Movement Using Indymedia's Archives for 2002) ----- Richard E. Martin 15 Nov 2005 04:30 GMT ------- Final Thesis Copy - (pdf)

In this thesis, I utilize the 2002 archives of the Independent Media Center to measure the growth of the anti-globalization movement and attempt to determine whether this growth is correlated to media coverage of anti-globalization related events in the same year.

This thesis will also be available free of charge on the University of South Florida's library website after Fall 2005 Graduation has passed. You can search the library archives for it using the following link: ib.usf.edu/usflibraries/search_etd.html

/827915 A petition against awarding the Nobel Prize to two warmongers ---- peacemaker, 14.11.2005 21:15
The Nobel Prize committee's reasoning that the Professors Robert J. Aumann and Thomas C. Schelling have "enhanced our understanding of conflict and cooperation through game-theory analysis" is completely cynical. This considering Prof. Schelling's role in the Vietnam War and the Professor Aumann's hawkish "scientific" interpretations of the Middle East conflict and his belligerent recommendations for a "solution": No to efforts to end the conflict ASAP, Yes to Israeli nuclear arsenal, etc.

827908Neocon poster girl can't read or write but got famous for filing a rape (by Talibanoid) complaint :::::: Mukhtar Mai has been cast for a lead role in a narrative already written by a neo-con agenda. To activists she may be the icon of the global woman’s movement against patriarchy, but she will quickly be reified into whatever the prevailing powers need her to be, for the moment, a victim of fundamentalism. No one can blame this poor woman simply seeking justice and a peaceful life for accepting this role. However, real change will come when those activists, turned brokers, realize that the only way to get real justice for all is not to “pull strings”, but to break strings.
ibrahim@sadatv.com sadatv.com -----

strictly distractive

2005-11-14T05:16:00.000-08:00

folkalley.com/archives/000559.php
Now I know why Dylan struggles to talk
September 29, 2005 -- 28 comments

folkalley.com/archives/000574.php As students of American history are aware, the regular celebration of Thanksgiving in this country did not begin unil 1863, and our current use of the fourth Thursday in November was not set by Congress until 1941.

But for those who are interested in both the myth and the reality of the "Pilgrims' Thanksgiving", I offer the following link to a cool Mayflower website.

Anyone out there care to share particularly memorable Thanksgiving songs?
Posted by Jim Pipkin

------ 12th comment:
a publication that excels at stepping in and back out with such great strides that the times of the pilgrims, what they found and did with 'it' (almost all of it) is kept in mind and set off in light of other major movements of men (dominated women) is counterpunch and a fresh addition is this:

counterpunch.com/neumann11112005.html November 11, 2005 -- The Rebel King of Bluegrass - Jimmy Martin: an Appreciation --- By MICHAEL NEUMANN

swaneagle:
"I see the acceleration of physical abuse, abandonment of mothers, sexual assault
to be directly related to the growth of colonialist narco free trade, the destruction of land based cultures and the valuing of competition and profit over healthy relationships."

-----------------
That's a little bit too easy. In many "relationship-based" that is to say "kinship-based" cultures the abuse of women is not even seen as abuse -- just as a sign that the owner cares. Cultures in which women are serially raped in order to punish the males to whom they belong (a recent incident in Pakistan) may be free from market relations and yet persist in femicide and abuse. In such cultures women may see a factory job as a step up.

Joanna

> George Gilder, incidentally, understood this very well. I don't have the quotes at hand, but he's very explicit on how the right to abortion puts women in control of the reproductive process, which undermines the authority of men.

This is true but it does not got far enough. In reality it transaltes into saying that women have power inasfar as they refrain from having children. Because once you have children you must contend with other issues like feeding them, educating them, getting medical care, and raising them. None of these things are resolved by controlling the reproductive process alone. (Of course, having the power to have one kid rather than ten helps.) In other words, if in having children one gives hostages to fortune, in a society in which men have power, the act of having children will always make one weaker and more apt to serve whoever the masters happen to be. After I had kids I worked much harder at my job because of my kids. So, in this society, we wind up with the paradox that I, as a woman, have the most perfect freedom from men by not having any children. That is I am most free as a woman by ceasing to function as a woman. An impotent feminism!

This is why, for me, the whole discussion about whether reproductive freedom is a woman's issue or a man's issue simply exposes the fallacy of gender-based politics. Whatever affects women affects men and vice versa. (Master/Slave in another guise.) The greatest advance in "sexual liberation" will come when we all recognize that military subscription is both a man's and woman's issue and that the right to abortion is not
just a woman's issue....etc. Until we learn to speak in this new way, we will forever be splitting the working class into more and more ineffectual splinters.

Joanna

These are complex, critical issues that, yes, are a bit too easy to address without the total context to each unique situation. The progress women make is all too often undercut by the rapid destruction of customary life and that destruction is furthered by existing patriarchy, exploited by corporate greed mongering take over. The situation for women in Afghanistan is definitely furthered by U.S. invasion terribly augmented by already existing misogyny, whether it is the Taliban, US allies or those scapegoating women due to their
own hardship. Strange how it is. It is hideous for women all over the planet and those of us who can adress it must before we are not allowed to.

In the case of Gutemala, the Mayan introduction to patriarchy came from the
Spanish and the catholics.

NAFTA flooded the Mexican market with cheap corn ruining over a million and a half farmers forcing millions to head north. Some continue crossing over the border. Millions more inhaibt squalid slums along the border such as in Ciudad Juarez. It is the factory workers of the maquiladoras that comprise the majority of the toruture-rape- mutilation-murders of women in Juarez. The murders of men exceed that of women, but it is not sexualized in nature. This is also the case in Guatemala and other Central American countries as well as Colombia.

In Tuba City, AZ, where hundreds of traditional Dineh (Navajos) have been forcibly relocated due to corporate resource extraction, such murders of the daughters of relocatees are occurring as are murders of men as well. It is the legacy of School of the Americas mentality that has always afflicted the agenda of colonialism.

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http://culturecandy.org / Baton Rouge area treasure trove of art and music
http://melissaferrick.com/communityLinks.asp
greatnewmusic.com/ 12 solo artists so far

?? culturecandy link ?? Pulse (video footage of tiny puppets and paraphernalia laden theater): "The three characters, Blood, Lava, and Electricity represent the human animal, the natural world, and civilization respectively. Blood grapples with both Lava and Electricity in their rivalry for control. "Pulse" shows humanity not as the strong rational rulers of the earth but instead as a tormented figure that struggles to find security in an uncertain world."

riding the cresting wave of uncontainable discontent

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A little while back The Bitch linked to a Susie Bright piece (on porn and I forget what it came with) but as this picture shows, porn and gore sure go together as well as rich and poor. (not)

The bombs and the bluff, the blooms and the buff; why do lies hold 'm altogether?

Actually the bombsheilallah rides her 'sleaze' thingy (according to the caption; it's only half its 60K size as shown) with obviously extatic and celebratory abandon understandably enough in the light of what's with her (her way with her way preempting whatever wants to get into it with what's ((the foreign body that's)) inside already).

She makes (or is made to make .. .better yet: made TO LOOK LIKE she is making) her (unconstrainedly easy rider*) way with this righter of affairs affording her space to 'dominasticate' (cutting 3 words up short and pasting them into 1)

The male thing supremo is to pone the shortsighted, reactionary, fear, profit and cruelty driven parafernalia, in short, the bulk of all assorted products under the sun along a sliding scale just where he pleases, just where he thinks they belong, just as prime ordeal Adam starting putting and keeping things and beings in their place.

This state of affairs and affair of states is 'just' in his eyes since the enemy that is bold enough to shamelessly saddle him up with the bombfactoring burden has only himself to blame.

Some enemies are far away and they're gonna have to deal with the wreckages wrought by -- the seed that returns beyond the most wild of usurious (love making as Willy Shakes his Speare, I mean uses usury) dreams -- menacing stuff that is shiney, docile and as well behaved as a dildo** (just as catatonic when no need arises to be unleashed).

'Where's that dangerous male tax already?' cried the chinese homosexuality instructor. Hey doncha know said the imam: man and woman are inseparable. We'll see about that cried the man with the hi-tec oiltin fintoil cap.

*caught glimpses of 'easy rider' for the first time last week. I'd never ever seen it yet (probably due to my resistance regarding going straight which is what is pretty much compelled and confined to do on them stupid choppers ((front wheel outasight)); I grew up with the most futuristic yet earthy sports in the world as my fav: MOTOCROSS!!!!!!)

**As to the rebels that ride dildo's exclusively I daren't say much, certainly not that they do it for lack of real men (though my troubles of finding mentally compatible mates are harrowing for sure and probably parallel) cause that would be hoisting the hurdle out of playful and seductive sight (proliferating and catching up to the rate bombs are traded and stockpiled aweful fast no?). Homosexuals were a substantial factor in fanning the great war flames so why would lesbos be any better?. There is a blog I started (and retired in favor of newborn offspring today) from being inspired by Jill Johnston who wrote one of the first large illustred books on Lesbianism: http://admacc.blogspot.com

digital management shrinkpiffles the puffable power milling masses puny

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http://blog.pulpculture.org/2005/11/08/googlepark-panem-et-circenses/ The Bitch is getting into it, blogging that is. She wants to figure out Adsense and Adword (how BIG and puny POWER and piffle PUFF and shrink the digital valves and sluices to net them ours rather than us theirs; giant upgrade for the Joseph 'drums' up pyramid labour army tactic or what?). Let's wish her luck shall we?

Speaking about killer colour (some more)
When first starting out and entered the race for dressing up content as a worlchomp killer-colour-picker/clicker (see the ((top)) links on the right) in 1998 I was well aware of my own worth and world shaking potential in even as very sub-subsetarian a field as styling (the art of taking cover in a book).

An article about colour combination patenting crossed my path but I didn't pursue that route to taking pecuniary interest in and out of my work underestimating the effect by a wide margin; what withall my getting interdisciplinary about deeper meanings of 'sensible spectrumedge contemplation' I could well have tried to profit in earthy ways from my insight in the capacity of black/green combinatorics to sooth folks silly (worse than 'the queen of hearts' movie ever lets on).

Imagine me getting a millionth of a percent off of the world wide craze in this pixelicious matter (or haven't you noticed a particularly persistent fashion of the last few years? the sort of thing MNC's scramble to incorporate in their ad campaigns, they took the wrappings but left the gift untouched). I'd be able to start a country and lay down the constitution for it too, dontcha think; instead I am begging fruitlessly for some space to display and open my book collection to the public.

In short I need an agressive manager and The Bitch makes me feel safe.

good news(wire back up)

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http://newswire.indymedia.org//en/newswire/archive.shtml even the comments are functioning again!!!!!!

Convince yourself this deserves to revive by visiting: http://poetpiet.tripod.com/Indymediasamples.htm

The rest of this post is a follow up to the last, to wit, a snippet from the debatetle raging to the tune of 44 comments at
http://hyperstition.abstractdynamics.org/archives/006349.html

ps: there will soon be one single hit for "indexed basics based basket currency" a google Qwhack also the first one ever claimed I am willing to assert on instinct.

various bits (including china's yuan basket)

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http://hyperstition.abstractdynamics.org/archives/006349.html
Socialism with Chinese Characteristics
In early 1992, Deng Xiaoping gave a series of off-the-cuff speeches in Southern China to rally the forces of market-oriented reform against the reactionary currents setting in after the Tiananmen episode.

wow. a communist society learning how to be good capitalists while maintaining its fundamental purpose. touché.Posted by: northanger at September 8, 2005 06:56 PM

management of the Yuan using a basket of currencies -- Result 1-10 van circa 473.000 voor yuan basket (0,17 seconden) ----- 521 voor "yuan basket" (0,07 seconden)
> The value of the Yuan is not tied to the US dollar,> which is why the US is so upset. China values the> Yuan internally. The basket provides the government> with a reason/excuse to raise or lower the value of> the Yuan, in response to American government criticism that the Yuan is undervalued.>
> As far as I'm aware, the only fractional reserve> issuance going on in the PRC is in Hong Kong,> where they do not use Yuan, but Hong Kong Dollars, issued as bank notes.>
> By the way, I am assisting 3 complementary currency systems in Hong Kong.>
> Stephen DeMeulenaere == Asia Program Coordinator == Strohalm Foundation complementarycurrency.org/cc..html
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PILGRIMS OF SAINT MICHAEL michaeljournal.org

Dear all, I just finished reading from:
David Astle, The Babylonian Woe - A Study of the Origin of Certain Banking Practices, and of their effect on the events of Ancient History, written in the light of the Present Day, 1993 yamaguchy.netfirms.com/astle_d/astle_index.html
Page 138:The indignation of Cicero as recorded in this Orationmay be traced to the indifference of certain personswho lived close to the Aurelian steps, to the good ofthe Roman State wherein they lived and whosesolidarity enabled them to arrange to have mobsintimidate the proceedings of the court which heard aperson, probably a member of the banking family knownas the Lollii,(22) attempt to smear the reputation ofLucius Flaccus, who, as Praetor of Syria, had issuededict forbidding this movement of precious metalsEastward for deposit at the Temple in Jerusalem.(23)

Page 146:22. Michael Grant, (From Imperium to Auctoritas. P.57.), makes mention of a banking family known as theLollii . Cicero speaks of a Laelius ; (Orationes : ProFlaccus, Book XVII.) . They are more likely members ofthe same family.-----------
Now be aware that the Lollii family still exist: Guglielmo Maria Lolli Ghetti di Ferentino, an old prince living in Rome, is the Honorary President of our Italian Center of Monetary Studies (CSM):centrostudimonetari.org
He is a Knight Templar strongly supporting our idea to establish cc worldwide and an international cc clearing system. He knows very well Paul Marcinkus and maybe we will soon be able to know the true history behind the IOR Vatican bank. His website: rextemplar.it/

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(1) Money, in the present UMS (Usury Monetary System) is definitely backed -- by the most important backing of all: the worthy REAL asset of the "borrower" (eg. his house).

JCT: Good point. People keep calling it "fiat" money like it's issued on the basis of nothing, "by fiat," when almost all loans are over-collateralized by poorer borrowers so richer ones can get under-collateralized loans. But there's always lots of backing behind all loans.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ijccr/message/4182 Subject: RE: [ijccr] Before, it was land from Indians and now crude oil from Iraqis ---

W B Ryan's ugly side shows - don't go there unless you can handle a bad temper

JCT: I think Bill Ryan is either an agent provocateur sent in to give Social Credit a bad name or he's a lunatic. He's been causing so much trouble that I've decided to add the link to my debates with him to my home page debates section: cyberclass.net/turmel/ryan00.htm

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