Wednesday, October 04, 2006

Indigene, . digger, amish, hippy, .. pleaching permaculturist?

For pleached permaculture (and especially for it's potential, once enough of us get to keep at it unmolested) you're gonna have to use your imagination but a larger version of the picture is a click away.

After seeing the few versions of this (quite illumating schema, diagram, divide, call to justice and decision regards the paths of life and the hi-ways to hell, this ultimate origin of ethos, piety and common sense) quietly disappear from the net over the last few years, I must break my long blogsilence and put up the one i saved (would love to credit (and converse with) the artist but can't even mention the url i found it at and saved it from (9/5 at 9.55) .

The course of conduct (walk of lif) polarization depicted .. . led up to Marx's pronouncement: 'we are all jewish now' and it's quietly adopted successor: 'we are all capitalists now', (specially after all testy flesh was spent in the world wars). The follow-ups of recent years (as the walls, gaps, gulfs and chasms grew, cleaved and yawned wider respectively) have become (correspondingly) more pronounced (in rapid succesion: 'we are all palestinians now' , 'we are all terrorists now') and prompt me to now offer a grand unified theory of psycho schlock value (that will be shamelessly exploited without a thankyou no doubt, mind you, google doesn't register even a single instance of): 'we are all schizophrenic now' ('- did not match any documents.').

9 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Arena Gladiators Salute Ya There Piet!
So Go & Try This One On For Size There Piet...

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Holocaust Settlement Funds & The National Executive Board...

Yes We All Are Jews There Piet,
In One Way Or Another...

How About Austrian Swiss German Banks Of STRUCK & STRUCK

So Once Again As Always...
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(We dare defend our rights)

Signed Gladly Sadly and Tragically
At The Pacing PassionSwords Blades Edge
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Of The Society Of The Sacred PassionsWord

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Fade Out From The Daylight Arena Of Truth & Justice
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Inside Each & Every Public Service ChainLink To Dispair Within
A Destined Chain Reaction Of Upcoming Evil Events Filled With
"Red Alert" Lit Shady Back Room Supremacist "Rat Riddle" Dealings...
In The "Grand Quickening Rocking The Cashba Pace" Of It All Black

1:25 PM  
Anonymous Patrick said...

Hi Piet! I really ought to start being more supportive of your blog, because I think almost everybody in the blogosphere we both go to are idiots. I hope you are doing okay. I've quit leninology because they haven't the spine to discipline warszawa, and this is just pandering, they just do it to draw in business. No guts much of anywhere. Anyway, Nick Land must be up Shit Creek with the Democrats triumphant; it's been a magnificent week, and the world is not quite as scary as it once was. This is the most important election in many years. Take care--pj KEEP PLEACHING!!

8:08 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Patrick:
I think almost everybody in the blogosphere we both go to are idiots.

Piet:
I for one would like to know exactly which blogs you visit Patrick, never mind whether they be idiots or not.

By the way, I don't believe peacepalestine and xymphora are idiots, nor is Bitch|Lab or robotwisdom (on hiatus and he don't do comments anyhow). Wouldn't vouch for Northanger though but I visit and even comment (my last one is a beaut: http://northanger.livejournal.com/270063.html i think) but you are right, can't get a straight answer out of her but at least she has that famed biblical 'mary mulling' factor to add to her interesting confusion. Her obsession with fleeing (never mind flying) wombs is just tops innit?).

Sent her a picture but she won't recip.


Patrick:
I hope you are doing okay. I've quit leninology because they haven't the spine to discipline warszawa, and this is just pandering, they just do it to draw in business. No guts much of anywhere.

Piet:
I've dug up a few items with your contributions but i'd rather you'd cc your fav list or discoveries, even the bloggage commenting you do would be welcome, you deserve to have a mailinglist or something; doubt you even save them at all though.

I keep putting off pulling big chunks of my stuff scattered on 'out of style' zip disk so i can at least decently chase a local search through them every now and again.


Patrick:
Anyway, Nick Land must be up Shit Creek with the Democrats triumphant; it's been a magnificent week, and the world is not quite as scary as it once was. This is the most important election in many years. Take care--pj


Piet:
You too. Funny enough i just this morn decided to read the brief essays comprising the 'zones' at ccru cause of this:

Zn-0 [0000.00] Sun
Zn-1 [0001.00] Mercury
Zn-2 [0002.55] Venus
Zn-3 [0004.15] Earth
Zn-4 [0007.95] Mars
Zn-5 [0049.24] Jupiter
Zn-6 [0122.32] Saturn
Zn-7 [0348.78] Uranus
Zn-8 [0684.27] Neptune
Zn-9 [1028.48] Pluto

http://northanger.livejournal.com/269413.html


i've gotten rather sensitive to double and multiple fives for obvious reasons (lately added: crucial .. .or should that be crucible .. .trigger times at pinatubo - 15 years ago, 5.55 on june 15 91).


venus!!! cost you dire but sure for hire!!!!


A few days ago, Northanger showed the parralels to colour* in a similar scheme and bycause i really am a venusian too (not 'from' there but blessed/dominated ((dunno which yet but might as well be one as the other .. . .for someone who has and when you have (almost) become a convertiot of the 'i am (just another) you' faith - the lawoftime site has just put up/out a very Paul Laffoley type poster thingy - pdf with much 'hotter' colours of course))).

* she linked to: http://www.shortcourses.com/pixels/colordepth.htm 2 to the first power = black and white, 2 to the twentyfourth power is true (16 million) colours .. . .http://www.shortcourses.com/2006/09/manchester-essex-woods-this-weekend totally beautiful toad here.


Patrick:
KEEP PLEACHING!!

Piet:
Well, as it is appropriately on topic for this item I'll show you what I found (just yesterday) after seeing the site http://archilibre.org I alerted chabert about, resulting in link below (i am sure) was back online.

http://lecolonelchabert.blogspot.com/2006/11/landscape-architecture-or-estateheads.html looks like mailing chabert the 550 archilibre pic links (google cache thumbs only till the site owners find a (new) sponsor i guess .. . oh wait, it's back online (quarter of a mill visitors since oct 2000)


jean Soum (archilibrist)
enseignant chercheur
à l'école d'Architecture de Toulouse
autoconstructeur, webmestre de ce site,
auteur des photos
concepteur de dômes et zomes,
assistance à l'autoconstruction

lieu dit Marquet-09130 Carla Bayle-France
T. 00 33 (0)5 61 68 99 58
jean.soum@toulouse.archi.fr


from his linklist:
http://www.cyberarchi.com/actus&dossiers/entretiens/index.php?dossier=82&article=299


http://www.cyberarchi.com/actus%26dossiers/albums_photos/default.php?article=2896&page=1 dome gallery


http://forum.lixium.fr/cgi-bin/liste.eur?jeannot

http://www.archilibre.org/liens.html


http://gabionorg.free.fr/

http://www.lerecoursauxforets.org/

http://www.vagabondart.org/cabanes.htm

http://arimbo.free.fr/
Do find 'le Nid'Arbre, cabane à suspendre!'

http://www.revedecabane.com/site_en.html they don't just dream 'm, they build ''m tight and strong! (bring 20.000 euro though)


http://www.thetreehouseguide.com/links.htm includes descrips


http://www.treehouseworkshop.com/index.htm crafters
http://www.treehouseworkshop.com/favorite.htm nice liddul gallery

http://www.thetreehouseguide.com/mytreehouseremoval.htm don't let this happen to you!!!!!!



http://www.nenuphar.be/

http://www.zomes-concept.com/EJaccueil.htm



apropo idiots:
my links are rotting (sigh), just yesterday i had a chucklefull reacquaintance with Dolf Boek and on him I wrote something that relates to the most exciting and insightful time i had at hyperstition:


http://www.sybilline.bigpondhosting.com/kabbalah/time.html#BEGIN funny that dolf puts up a picture of an enneagram that is 3Dimensionalized just like i intuited in the 80s .. .. it occurs to me that once you draw lines from 8 and 1 as well as 6 and 3 down to a point between 4 and 5 you could complete an octahedron (specially if you also draw the left out lines between 6 and 8, 3 and 1 .. . you get a feel for how this could have been a mill/pump/bellows design by the way the birdheaded croucher is holding the thing speciall since it is quite easy to imagine him letting go of the red triangle and the thing flapping up/open till in the same horizontal plane the inverted tetra (with the wheel on top makes) . .

All very reminiscent of my musings regarding the 3D kaballah tree in combination with Wessel di Wesseli's perp mobile design (posted at the hyperstition site and my defunct one).

6:20 AM  
Blogger piet said...

Patrick:
I think almost everybody in the blogosphere we both go to are idiots.

Piet:
I for one would like to know exactly which blogs you visit Patrick, never mind whether they be idiots or not.

By the way, I don't believe peacepalestine and xymphora are idiots, nor is Bitch|Lab or robotwisdom (on hiatus and he don't do comments anyhow). Wouldn't vouch for Northanger though but I visit and even comment (my last one is a beaut: http://northanger.livejournal.com/270063.html i think) but you are right, can't get a straight answer out of her but at least she has that famed biblical 'mary mulling' factor to add to her interesting confusion. Her obsession with fleeing (never mind flying) wombs is just tops innit?).

Sent her a picture but she won't recip.


Patrick:
I hope you are doing okay. I've quit leninology because they haven't the spine to discipline warszawa, and this is just pandering, they just do it to draw in business. No guts much of anywhere.

Piet:
I've dug up a few items with your contributions but i'd rather you'd cc your fav list or discoveries, even the bloggage commenting you do would be welcome, you deserve to have a mailinglist or something; doubt you even save them at all though.

I keep putting off pulling big chunks of my stuff scattered on 'out of style' zip disk so i can at least decently chase a local search through them every now and again.


Patrick:
Anyway, Nick Land must be up Shit Creek with the Democrats triumphant; it's been a magnificent week, and the world is not quite as scary as it once was. This is the most important election in many years. Take care--pj


Piet:
You too. Funny enough i just this morn decided to read the brief essays comprising the 'zones' at ccru cause of this:

Zn-0 [0000.00] Sun
Zn-1 [0001.00] Mercury
Zn-2 [0002.55] Venus
Zn-3 [0004.15] Earth
Zn-4 [0007.95] Mars
Zn-5 [0049.24] Jupiter
Zn-6 [0122.32] Saturn
Zn-7 [0348.78] Uranus
Zn-8 [0684.27] Neptune
Zn-9 [1028.48] Pluto

http://northanger.livejournal.com/269413.html


i've gotten rather sensitive to double and multiple fives for obvious reasons (lately added: crucial .. .or should that be crucible .. .trigger times at pinatubo - 15 years ago, 5.55 on june 15 91).


venus!!! cost you dire but sure for hire!!!!


A few days ago, Northanger showed the parralels to colour* in a similar scheme and bycause i really am a venusian too (not 'from' there but blessed/dominated ((dunno which yet but might as well be one as the other .. . .for someone who has and when you have (almost) become a convertiot of the 'i am (just another) you' faith - the lawoftime site has just put up/out a very Paul Laffoley type poster thingy - pdf with much 'hotter' colours of course))).

* she linked to: http://www.shortcourses.com/pixels/colordepth.htm 2 to the first power = black and white, 2 to the twentyfourth power is true (16 million) colours .. . .http://www.shortcourses.com/2006/09/manchester-essex-woods-this-weekend totally beautiful toad here.


Patrick:
KEEP PLEACHING!!

Piet:
Well, as it is appropriately on topic for this item I'll show you what I found (just yesterday) after seeing the site http://archilibre.org I alerted chabert about, resulting in link below (i am sure) was back online.

http://lecolonelchabert.blogspot.com/2006/11/landscape-architecture-or-estateheads.html looks like mailing chabert the 550 archilibre pic links (google cache thumbs only till the site owners find a (new) sponsor i guess .. . oh wait, it's back online (quarter of a mill visitors since oct 2000)


jean Soum (archilibrist)
enseignant chercheur
à l'école d'Architecture de Toulouse
autoconstructeur, webmestre de ce site,
auteur des photos
concepteur de dômes et zomes,
assistance à l'autoconstruction

lieu dit Marquet-09130 Carla Bayle-France
T. 00 33 (0)5 61 68 99 58
jean.soum@toulouse.archi.fr


from his linklist:
http://www.cyberarchi.com/actus&dossiers/entretiens/index.php?dossier=82&article=299


http://www.cyberarchi.com/actus%26dossiers/albums_photos/default.php?article=2896&page=1 dome gallery


http://forum.lixium.fr/cgi-bin/liste.eur?jeannot

http://www.archilibre.org/liens.html


http://gabionorg.free.fr/

http://www.lerecoursauxforets.org/

http://www.vagabondart.org/cabanes.htm

http://arimbo.free.fr/
Do find 'le Nid'Arbre, cabane à suspendre!'

http://www.revedecabane.com/site_en.html they don't just dream 'm, they build ''m tight and strong! (bring 20.000 euro though)


http://www.thetreehouseguide.com/links.htm includes descrips


http://www.treehouseworkshop.com/index.htm crafters
http://www.treehouseworkshop.com/favorite.htm nice liddul gallery

http://www.thetreehouseguide.com/mytreehouseremoval.htm don't let this happen to you!!!!!!



http://www.nenuphar.be/

http://www.zomes-concept.com/EJaccueil.htm



apropo idiots:
my links are rotting (sigh), just yesterday i had a chucklefull reacquaintance with Dolf Boek and on him I wrote something that relates to the most exciting and insightful time i had at hyperstition:


http://www.sybilline.bigpondhosting.com/kabbalah/time.html#BEGIN funny that dolf puts up a picture of an enneagram that is 3Dimensionalized just like i intuited in the 80s .. .. it occurs to me that once you draw lines from 8 and 1 as well as 6 and 3 down to a point between 4 and 5 you could complete an octahedron (specially if you also draw the left out lines between 6 and 8, 3 and 1 .. . you get a feel for how this could have been a mill/pump/bellows design by the way the birdheaded croucher is holding the thing speciall since it is quite easy to imagine him letting go of the red triangle and the thing flapping up/open till in the same horizontal plane the inverted tetra (with the wheel on top makes) . .

All very reminiscent of my musings regarding the 3D kaballah tree in combination with Wessel di Wesseli's perp mobile design (posted at the hyperstition site and my defunct one).

6:30 AM  
Anonymous patrick said...

I thought you'd never get things back up here, I think I wrote that comment 3 days ago. I'm going to go through the last part of your comment tomorrow, gradually getting familiar with some of your vocabulary.

Okay, I've actually managed to break some cycles with the 'idiot blogs,' but since I wrote the above I still use Leninology, although rarely comment. I go there because lenin, meaders, and Vicious Chekist are all terrific. They need to leave warszawa there because he's an oddity that draws in people, although I finally finished up with him today at Icite, something of a hot-air blog by academic Stalinist Jodi Dean. She did a whole series on 9/11 truth, and allowed me to comment as 'artist', even though she is the only blogger who ever banned me. He's simply out of his mind and wishes to stay that way. I did a lot of work on him and found how lowly his reputation is.

I actually like Chabert, but I am not going to pretend I can put up with anyone who espouses the 9/11 truth garbage. It's even more ridiculous than Nick's previous ravings about Cheney and Rumsfeld. But this election definitely has put the 9/11 truth people at a loss; they needed Bush to be 'eviler' than he can now be.
I responded to your comments on that post at Chabert though, as anonymous, although it's the first time I've been there in several months. It would be impolite to go back, and I wonder if she may try to recant on the 9/11 business. I do notice after her recent argument with w. that they have not been talking on the blogs Chabert or Qlipoth, and my rage over the past 3 months has finally subsided, but she and w. had a united front until I dug in.

Roger Gathman of Limited, Inc., has a good small blog sometimes. He's old-school literary and intelligent. Agree about Northanger, she's wonderful even though I don't know much of what she's talking about. I've been negligent of her Journal and will correct that--she deserves better for having put up with Nick's ego all this time.

Other than that, I really don't do many blogs by now. I communicate fairly regularly with 'undercurrent', formerly of Hyperstition, and may send him some stuff. He's a fine fellow. Gave me a Breton Prune Cake recipe that I'm going to make tomorrow.

I used to like that Troll of Sorrow lustmolch, even though he was unnecessarily mean--especially to you, I thought, and I think he has got to be drunk a good bit if he is silly enough to bother with the theological types at The Weblog--he'd argue with them as if they were in real life and you could shove your arm through the fucking computer. I wasn't sure why he was such a shit. He's reappeared after some absence at Chabert, which I glance at. I was truly bored with the bore warszawa deciding to accuse me of being lustmolch on top of saying I had 'betrayed Chabert.' lenin was terrific about that, and flatly said warszawa's accusations were false--twice.

Okay--that catches you up on my little blog-surfing, which is about a third of what it was a year ago. Don't you get some visitors here? I've told my Dutch friend here about you.

9:15 PM  
Blogger piet said...

Thanks Pat, love running accounts, recaps, role readings and all that. Dark roomlike gropery (exacerbated by the arrays of privacy protecting 'anymnominalism' armature) takes more than a little 'splainin'.

I don't remember asking you directly before but why do YOU think tower 7 collapse? I took it as proof of what Wojtek said earlier this week (individual and collective are like free will and determinism; separable only in the mind( )set (set) to dueling binaries).

further down such lines of enquiry are Laffoley's artwork: http://www.lawoftime.org/graphics/CosmicNoosphere.pdf galactic equator with little galactic equations.

.. . .supppose you could argue it's not entirely unlifelike to make/show neat halfhalf divides but they work best with light/dark contrasts and not with flaming and of course curvy colours.

I used to be on the indymain newswire for years (haven't really skipped any stages of it without catching them up) and got to know the very commencement of collective blogging once it migrated from usenet (which happened before my time) but just to prove how sparklike flighty that scene is i'll say that only one of the most remarkable commentariers (hex at la.indymedia) i occasionally run into anymore. .. besides chuck at the lbo-talk crowd (my steadiest source over the years, the main indywire lost its comment crowd after break downs like so many popular indys do.

6:16 AM  
Anonymous patrick said...

Yes, 'roomlike gropery'--things like this keep you knowing that it's still a screen and not a room. In writing this piece for Robin (possibly for Collapse, although it may well be too off-the-beaten-track for that ultimately, but anyway, he got me started writing it, so I keep him in mind while writing it), I'm going to be able to, at last, arrange these characters with their 'role readings' in short, jagged fragments, like infinitely minute TV episodes. This is the only way I can deal with this and write myself out of and through the leftist-blog soap opera. One of chabert's most interesting configurations was her TeeVee talk, but she continued to invent more of it--these interblog situations are the Current TeeVee. She therefore, produces automatically a TeeVee Show at her blog in particular. Not all of the blogs have this kind of high TeeVee quotient. warszawa reappeared by yesterday, probably in response to a long thread with chabert and lustmolch. The most important sensation to try to get across is that there is no way to reconnect the very 'sense of connection' one has between 2 or more parties in these conversations which do not continue offline except in forms of slightly hysterical laughter and plans for furthering something which still exists within a 'land' in which all of the physical dimensions have been removed.
I find it very depressing, this schizophrenia in which the 'roomlike' is no longer that, but seen as an actual Room. What then occurs offline is often necessarily degraded. This is not so much anything new, as it is more and more difficult to discern where one stops and the other begins. All of the blog relationships that do not at least include emails to make it have a bit more personal definition and dimension should therefore be considered dispensible and disposable, and this should be made quite explicit, because this dispensibility underlies all the license that people ALREADY take (without ever saying so) in these so-called 'relationships', which are less 'bodies without organs' than they are 'relationships without relationship'.

I haven't thought that much about Number 7, although I've read much about it. But the way to answer this is that I have written my way through what is the hypnosis of the 9/11 truthfolk--it is so brazenly stupid that it fascinates for awhile, gives a buzz. That can be all it's for-- for anyone who can think. Therefore, what happened to No. 7 has not captured my attention thus far, i.e., there's plenty of time to think about this--the main thing that I am saying is that the 9/11 truthout people somehow put me on the defensive, but I never once thought they had even the slightest leg to stand on. It is because I find what they do to be obscene and corpsical--it has no human feeling while claiming to have the only human feeling. I succeeded in doing this by exploring warszawa, who would never once discuss any of the previous Al Qaeda attacks, nor any of the succeeding ones. If they did, they would have to admit the very obvious persistent existence of Bin Laden and Al Qaeda, and this would change the screamy preacher-like subject away from what they want it to be. That subject is not really anything identifiable, because there are so many eyewitnesses and so much DNA and scientific evidence. There is so much known about the way the Towers were built, which makes the implosion quite a simple thing.

In short, the only thing that is interesting about the 9/11 truthfolk is the way they can put some of us on the defensive, as I was for awhile. It can happen again if I read w's twisted language--but I need to less and less, I've got most of the material I need to write about this TeeVee Show. This Intimidation=You're-so-Stupid attitude is obviously the one unbending thing that distinguishes warszawa's 'argument', which is really no argument at all.

8:56 AM  
Anonymous patrick said...

http://lecolonelchabert.blogspot.com/2006/11/jargon.html#comments

Here in this chabert thread you can see the characters sizing each other up in much the same way they have done in other thread-constellations. The illusion is they are talking about something besides blogging and using blogging for ego gratification. I fell into this trap many times, and now that I am going to write a piece based on these BlogTeeveeShows and can discuss some of it with you, I (and maybe you too) can come up with something that goes beyond the pretense of talking about offline things--because they are not, really, they are talking about themselves. If we can ratchet up a few more revolutions of high-strung pitch, we will have made some kind of art from it--because at that level it is not art. That is why they are not paying attention to you, and, by now, me either: they are not artists nor poets and they do not care about that. They are interested in arguing without finding a resolution.

For example, the characters in this little fragment are all playing their roles as expected. I am the only one missing from these little melodramas, because I've finally come upon ideas that are more dynamic and less circular.

5:33 PM  
Anonymous patrick said...

http://lecolonelchabert.blogspot.com/2006/11/jargon.html#comments

I don't know if my previous comment got on here--yours is harder to get to post than most. Now, I didn't even copy it, so I'll try again, you can delete one of them. I was just saying I think this thread shows some of the characters going back to be faithful to their roles, hardening these online characters, seeming to suspend their real lives. They are putting real emotional investment into these. I used to fall into this, as you well know, and have only recently begun to pull out. It is something quite addictive and enervating and degrading. If you and I discuss these things, I and maybe you too can find some way of keeping out of the non-art aspect. As such, I want now to continue my real writing and let it be about this BlogTeeVeeShowSpace. Because it is definitely TeeVee SoapOpera in miniature that is being done. They are all there except me, and they'd like me to come back, but I need to try very hard not to. Today I ran into my Dutch friend on 23rd Street after talking to him for 2 hours, but we had not intended to then meet and went to the same location for different reasons. Then we went to a bunch of art galleries in the Chelsea area--this is one of my favourite things to do, just going into unknown dreams of painters and sculptors, it's even more pleasurable when you haven't made a careful list beforehand. I therefore now contact you regularly because we can see how these characters operate, and that they pay attention less to me already, in the same way they don't pay too much attention to you, except at Hyperstition. What is interesting in these left-political blogs, especially chabert's, is how little the talk of offline things is pertinent--the only focus is on the medium of blog itself and this is kept in place by never discussing it. They are acting as if their little scenes are exactly as important as their real-life scenes. I'm beginning to get close to how I may try to show the weird disconnect between the attempt to close off the sense of loneliness by suspending the reality of the screens. But the interest is the blogs, not the subjects of discussions. This is less the case at Hyperstition and Lenin's Tomb, probably, although everything evaporates. And you do not find art and poetry in everything evaporating. I think we have many things to talk about, but I'll wait and see what you think.

5:47 PM  

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