my take on Occu Pie in the skEye

my take on Occu Pie in the skEye

my observations concerning Occupy movement programming and slip ups:

3rd of october i wrote a slightly in depth comment on:
SONIC YOUTH -- from Sonic Nurse (2004)
     "Stones"

a song somebody stuck under some popular protest movement footage ... mostly from Spain. This vid got a lot of play in the early days.
 
 
 
 

http://nycga.cc/2011/10/02/arts_and_culture_minutes/
 

2 longer pieces and this:

altered the beginning slightly (looks like it doesn't allow live links): protest culture is not in intent but in effect an evil conspiracy to urbanize the young and innocent ... give that decrepit old parasite conglomememerate some much needed vitality infusion .... try tie a few tasty morsels down for the much needed billboard cachet ... .keep them hungry, on their toes and raging. No need to push the best to the front line so they can be done worst to, spilling into the street is quite inevitable for anything approaching crowd condition .... easy pickings for the orcs of global crowd control HQ
 
 
 

obama began slaughtering blacks in north africa ... have you even noticed????? a retraction, an apology .. might be in order dumb whitie. obama is a hybrid .... and what does every new brand try to do? Push all the others aside. And one can afford(/get away with using) the most horrid means to do it (when/as long as and) if one speaks all syruppee and out of the side of one's mouth about it .... like the Baracks man does.
 
 
 
 

the real evil right now is taking the focus and media heat off of another crusade like slaughter ... this time including blacks ... sanctioned by a hybrid such hopey for duh dopey Barracks man
'creative' destruction breakneck racing diminished returns and dwindling resources to the death.

.. but hey, i know as well as anyone, the young love crowds (controlled, doped or not), it widens the mating choice pool) ... and at least yall are a step away and up from that demoniac rave crowd.
Long live the People's megaphones, bigger and better block n borough circling unto the 7th generation, so fiersome the poor Quranists will drop jaw and gun in awe
 
 

on the 5th:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DEI1mcoFfy0 LIbya: NATO-Rebels fully
armed by the West ready to kill,destroy and loot (20.09.2011) - YouTube
 

[23:34] <poetpiet> meanwhile your black prez has led the way and has been led to ok the way to occupy and slaughter .... yall are being used to distract from that .... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DEI1mcoFfy0
 

     [23:34] * kizmut [YouTube URL Detected from poetpiet]
     "LIbya: NATO-Rebels fully armed by the West
     ready to kill, destroy and loot (20.09.2011)"
 

23:36] <poetpiet> just air that footage if you wanna prove you won't be instrumentalized and traded away at hi free queensee
 

     23:37] <par> poetpiet? you going to be a problem?
 

[23:38] <poetpiet> you mean 'do i wanna join you'? No, i am a perspectivist and that requires distance

[23:46] <poetpiet> come on, say something about your 'black' prez slaughering the only true supporter of africa and minorities left with any clout besides chavez and ..... not so sure about iran .... if you wanna show you will REALLY challenge your useful idiot status as well as his and his theatre crew
 
 

[23:58] <poetpiet> lybia libya africa champions murdered by the 'black' prez on the rez ... come ... on ... show it!!!  .... show that!!!! ... i am bored with the regular programming to be honest.  tyranny comes to lybia tirrany goes to libya
 

There WILL be a point of contact with those aiming most to please and hierarchically minded 'bottoms' professionally prepared to do the worst (paid of in advance and publically too in this case) and they will too make contact  .. pointless .. no point to it.

Apple commercial from 1984 played on the ows gr channel:

by the way, that jar jingle they've been using all this time .... it sucks .. rotten eggs.

just don't believe this naivite .... like the arab spring driven by a desire to have the 'neutral' and sanctifying western HANDY witness .... held up in droves and throngs pointed at lynchings perped by these 'rebels' (Al CIAduh) designated to use up a little more overstock and excess inventory .... always aiming at the capital destructions that temporarily reverse the rate of diminishing profits.
 
 

barracks obomber first 'black' prez on the rez is destroying the only champion africa ever really had with any kinda clout that mattered ..... or am i forgetting somebody????
 
 

5th of october:

[10:10] <Atm-584> here's the link to this: http://youtu.be/j_9T1SPJXRI
[10:10] * kizmut [YouTube URL Detected from Atm-584] "ANONYMOUS: "THE
PLAN" IS NOW LIVE. PHASE 1: INITIATED. WAR AGAINST THE SYSTEM."
[10:10] <poetpiet> permaculture in kenia vid was fun
 

] <Funkmob> When they say "Anonymous is an idea"?
[10:11] <truth2U> BERNANKE confronted about Occupy Wall Street
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9wEvsqF-Hc   He IS a LIAR. He spoke of QE3 Today!

[10:12] <poetpiet> banks propped up RE prices propped up ... big bonuses propped up .... noNORMALbody got any
 

[10:15] <poetpiet>
http://www.reinventingmoney.com/documents/ulrich.html please please pretty please .... make a note of this .. copy into txt file or go visit RIGHT NOW
 
 

6th of october:

[05:26] <poetpiet> better just read into quietly at this time of precious piece in the rapids .. there's a wordpress called realcurrencies ... by a dutchman like i am

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/wed-october-5-2011/parks-and-demonstration

http://vimeo.com/30090293  Striking The Root of Wall Street Corruption
https://twitter.com/#!/lessig/status/122087428369563649

[05:29] <poetpiet> read some taibbi to us four eight six nine folks .. clear space around bad cops on the double .. if you're gonna repeat this endlessly i'd like to know ... read a Taibbi article on live feed yet ????
why is e-waste so invisible to digital activists??????????
 

     [05:34] <crode> Hongpong you could try Monica on twitter
     @M0nicaL0pez

     [05:33] <Wolfen69|irc> http://foribite.com/server.jpg <- my home..
     b9AcE :D

[05:34] <poetpiet> man, you need a gasmask next to a stack like that
[05:44] <poetpiet> i have yet to hear someone read out some really great piece at nite. hey, yall crypters, get somebody to teach you an E-waste lesson if you really wanna be/get up to speed

[05:46] <OnionMan> http://www.wisn.com/politics/29413107/detail.html

[05:47] <poetpiet> my opinion is that E-waste is already a greater prob than the surveillance issue
[05:48] <poetpiet> i am not joking
[05:48] <poetpiet> on that one
[05:49] <poetpiet> guess we got nobody awake to throw something interesting on the feed ....... us poor four six six eight of us

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v601/cow-pie/OWSpamphletbacksmall.jpg

got this black white red poster

is this movement growing? A nighttime ows dj reading chatting with fingerchatterers.

yeah, loads of people bringing their seedlings to the hardest growing grounds possilble ... downtown this or that space designated for heardened heart parades and prestige displays
 

great bigbug pitfall looming:
the word occupation will no longer be associated with palestine hereafter (in a while) ... and so the beams of attention embarrassing to the Israel Lobbyists round the world and the IZ occipoo mass media throwing shit in eyes of all colours will be dimmed and deflected.
 

well into the eigth of october:

hey, who was the spiffy comedian they cut in briefly a few minutes ago????

[03:21] <anonlou> hang on... my husband knows who the comedian was but he will be right back

[03:21] <poetpiet> thanks anonlou ... i will

     [03:21] <LurkN> His name is Jamie, he is with Citizen Radio

.... found later: http://t.co/L84czD3o
 

the 9th:
i got the Jamie Kilstein vid (taken from a different angle .. which makes an annoying floodlight show n glare up right next to his head

wearecitizenradio.com. Jamie’s official site is jamiekilstein.com.
 
 

http://piratenpad.de/cyG2aD0YGO An in-collaborative-development,
not-endorsed list of demands. Join and help expand and refine.

poetpiet> yeah totally lame the whole street for like 2 minutes .. then 3 minutes the next hour ... then throw out the demands again ... they will listen pretty quick fucking digital coinshavers!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

at piratenpad:

---- on this topic i humbly recommend reading Ulrich von Beckerath, an insurance mathematician who died in 57, virtually unknown to this day. Genius though. --- i would change only one thing about his Real Bills Doctrine ... as championed today by very few people anymore ... like Fekete. I would tweak the gold standard (keeping paper money honest and cheapening as it gets more honest ... no stockpiles of it nowhere by the by) into a system of accurately measured diversity x rate of
photosynthesis. A slowly rising value standard, parallel to treegirth and soildepths. After all, the current that turns mountains into seafloors makes a stop to form and feed soil and everything.
 
 

[04:07] <Lili> hongpong... I know this wasn't your idea  but
     this is a really bad idea:  http://piratenpad.de/cyG2aD0YGO

     [04:08] <chr__> I hope nobody takes
     http://piratenpad.de/cyG2aD0YGO seriously
 

[04:09] <poetpiet> piratenpad is a rainbow of ideas pong .... not AN idea
 

     [04:10] <Lili> such an awful idea.  That thing is all over the
     place , this isn't gonna get us anywhere
 

[04:11] <poetpiet> it's like the cardboard park carpet crashpad ...

http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2011/10/01/why-the-new-bank-of-america-debit-card-fees-are-a-good-thing/

[04:16] <poetpiet> if yall were in santa cruz ... you'd be in jail on the double

[04:19] <poetpiet> yeah, drummin, that'll do it every time .... one of the greatest of them all just hung himself 12 days ago
 

     [04:22] <dx398> Private Central Banking has caused
     tremendous pain and suffering the World over...
 

[04:23] <poetpiet> private and corporate are NOT the same .. .redo your history lessons

http://occupywallst.org
[04:26] <poetpiet> good page ... but yet another where i have to use my secondary 9 year old white background censoring/tweaking browser
 

sleep

[11:04] *** Channel created on Sun Sep 18 04:15:07 2011

     [11:04] <par> the cleaning detail is constantly cleanin the park
     [11:04] <AndChat> (if not U should)
     [11:05] <KoolG> Yes, I know it isn't true, but that's their "stance"
     [11:05] <par> i myself have seen various cleaning workers (the owners      contractors) cleaning the park while i was sitting there.
     [11:05] <KoolG> They leave garbage where city easily comes to remove      it etc.... All good things.

     [11:06] <par> people in the park are constantly cleaning and sweeping..      they have skateboards and brooms hehe

[11:08] <poetpiet> i am the cleaning tedial mmocander chin ief .... wots that owsmell?? ... dustify the moist waste and go to the powder (to power the plants) plant
 

     [11:09] <AmosNewZealand> did anyone else get the feeling
     that there is one huge war about to sweep over the world

     [11:09] <KoolG> Scroll down to bottom to read Melissa Coley's
     statement, spokesperson of Brookfield (company that owns) -
     http://www.theatlanticwire.com/national/2011/10/more-who-controls-zuccotti-park/43414/
 

[11:09] <poetpiet> yyyeeeaaaahhhh rainbow family synchronicity .... about time.....  but really ..... mineral dusts to suck up sun via compost / soil / plants is way cleaner and smarter .... not to mention more beautiful ....  sweetly dreaming ..sleep well, seeya later
 
 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T62VCFoM9rc&feature=BFp&list=WL571DCF1B21EEAAB2

muammar gaddafi should have raised an army of camera aimers ... how much is a drone camera telescope these days anyways? He is the last of the critics in the west to be able to afford it easily ... he blew it. Guns and harsh language. That shit is too old. Gotta go.
 

teles telos tell us copey camera ... who is the most peaceful prince in the sand????
 
 
 

http://piratenpad.de/cyG2aD0YGO
**** It is currently at throw-shit-at-wall-and-see-what-sticks phase. ****
throw the Wall portions begging for size reduction, in appropriately dustificated form in the shit and see what grows ..... is i think a luckier phrase, realistically speaking

****Feel free to add points [[or comment on points]], spell check, etc..****

somebody there is dominating the convo and intolerant towards passages such as this one:

---SOILBUILDERS vs BANKERS-- on this topic i humbly recommend reading Ulrich von Beckerath,  an insurance mathematician who died in 57, virtually unknown to this  day. Genius though.

--- i would change only one thing about his Real  Bills Doctrine ... as championed today by very few people anymore ...  like Fekete. I would tweak the gold standard (keeping paper money honest  and cheapening as it gets more honest ... no stockpiles of it nowhere  by the by) into a system of accurately measured diversity x rate of  photosynthesis. A slowly rising value standard, parallel to treegirth and soildepths. After all, the current that turns mountains into  seafloors makes a stop to form and feed soil and everything.---

     -- basically, the more centralized things become, the more
fedfeeds/hubs should be a transparant 'read only' indexation, an aggregate info point. Like the ocean 'surplashes' superseedmoneying solids, following the rain, available for basics (education of specially the hi test boys (optional for others), teach them to crush rock -- trust me they will get a kick out of having their playkill thirst given a tweak in status raising ways rather than letting them drift into armies and wrecking everything including themselves -- capture that rain .. grow that tree ... turn dead rock into live compost, money bare naked relieved from the symbolization chokehold of literacy. Scratch, stroke crush, polish and spread currency .. i mean rock. ...make sure no polluted currents('ease') go to make up oceans and you won't have to worry about what comes out. On the contrary, reason to celebrate .. finest glacial milk-like river water effects: explosion of plankton pops. THE micro economic effect to we can reasonably expect from federal fund flows founded on and fostered from that totally firm a footage. ----- This mating and anticipation game is festive ... so completely contrary to the big guns gone bad ... their desires metastasized cause they hadn't had help developing an eye for the minute demands that would make the bigness they feel in their bones and are willing to go and die for .. Spring (P)Uppies or CropPeace anybody? can't and won't have one without the other, stop pushing them on the bajonets, campaign trails, settlers roads .. playstation consoles.

rESTART restful art: whereas most regular money has been captured by the formerly knives wielding cutthroats and coinshavers gone computer savvy and brought under digital control, a jubilee will be incredibly buttonpush easy due to the rigour of that binary world. The people were long scared,cowed, kidnapped  enslaved by the thought of the nuclear button, but now that era flipped into one where the banksters (those who suck at servicing functional centralization) are gonna be fearful, and throw a few cornered rat antics to be sure, of the button that turns it all transparant. Perhaps we need to do a few occupations in the country that has been cleverest of benefiting from corporative sins but pretending it kept it's hands clean: switserland. If they would throw open all corporate occlusionisms crossing their borders and using the modern mental plumbing like levers n pumps we might have that first vital sheep across that vital first dam.
 

quote:
Stop using these ridiculous power sources and invest in LENR (Low energy nuclear reactions) it's very clean, easy to produce and very productive, ok just be sure to explain. The process is not really relevant, but what is relevant is that it is a very interesting way of generating energy and with some more research it can provide cheap and clean energy ---- As a future engineer, nuclear energy is going to be crucial to energy independence and stability. I strongly agree --

piet:
i sure as hell don't, cut the toxcrap be humble and run your hot water ceramics through a compost heap ... we got churches now, we will have compost and pool our shit better in the very near future .... in fact, i wish they'd slap a mobile digester together for everybody to shit the shit out of themselves into on occupied pie in the eye 'prime' real estate around the world. What's prime about it if you don't do that sort of thing anyways.

and then there's all kinds of stuff like  http://wesseldiwesseli.blogspot.com
--- ---  thanks for kicking me in the head though ... i don't want to get my hopes up about a mere website ... or have you begun to secede here and there already .. .according to various mixes of real and imagined cleavage requirements? ---

above also at http://piratenpad.de/5EHo8M8MrE
minus the quotes
 
 
 

http://owsworkingdocs.wordpress.com/economic-charter/

     Principles of Solidarity
     The American People’s Economic Charter
     OWS Education Contact List
     Goals of the OWS Movement = piratenpad.de/cyG2aD0YGO

     http://occupywallst.org/chat/
     OccupyTogether.org is being written as a hub |
     http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pd60nYW577U | help us form solid goals http://piratenpad.de/cyG2aD0YGO]

[20:19] <+poetpiet> wow ... i am featured ... as it were .... ask me anything about the deep purlpe portions in that .de link at the top

[20:22] <+poetpiet> alrite, guess not .... more free time for me ... looks like even in a packed chat like this the breaking up into channels and doing 'best ofs' in the main one, the shop window as it were ... aint comin off too good huh ?

[20:25] <+poetpiet> never mind ... i retract ... a holy of holies ends up run by the worst loonies everytime. have a good eve yall

hey,why don't you guys do another colourquilt of polished shaved, buffed, critiqued amended and re-amended protocoolcalls at http://www.piratenpad.de ??????? that would help out great.

you guys are pumpin E-waste gale force ... lordy lordy ... i am bowing out .... been good to see yall though.

In that purple section i mentioned there is emphasis on the need to be sanitarily selfsufficient ... like any self-respecting task force would be. That means biogas digestion tanks .. compost containers

[20:40] <+poetpiet> before blowing a lot of material and equipment on keystone coppers retreat, regroup and restart in small spacious green places ... THEN work up to theTOUGHer NUTS and WALLS

[20:45] <+poetpiet> now i am really going .... this was fun ... let's do it again sometime soon. ..... i've been here half an hour and nobody remarked on the link at the top .... i went, took part and liked it.

 ah repeats are not modded here???????
BAIL OUTS ARE SPECULATOR BAIT
--- BAIL OUTS ARE SPECULATOR BAIT --
 
 
 

http://occupyeverything.org/2011/eat-the-rich/#comment-227
and/or evacuate (at the top of the vacuously white site ... but it has an intrestin byline there too (it's the old nettime Holmes guy):

quote:
Occupy Everything is an anti-capitalist platform—established in  2009—dedicated to militant research, critical pedagogy and public practices that include mediatic intervention, feminism and the anti-enclosure movement.
 

wait now, woodunt DISoccupy and/or rootup/crowndown be a better idea???
 
 
 
 

october 9th:

this is provoking cops to go for the worst of santa cruz policies and attitudes towards the homeless ..... hong pong is already in cahoots with alex jones ... don't follow that madman's playbook folks .... my advice to retreat, regroup and tighten 'protocoolant pretackle' on a featured collab doc was erased ... against their own rules.

i am not sure this won't end in tears for too many.

piratenpad:
poetpiet: taking my stuff out and not even leaving a reason here is a no no if i am reading my post police state post calendaric flip sensibilities right poetpiet: if i find no reason given .. a valid one ... not about the colours cause i was assigned that and don't really know how to change that .... i will replace it.
 

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1guZ03g0yCMvX1W4wH5Ji5tykYDYt9X84vnhZYjXhtnQ/edit?pli=1&hl=en_US
nother collab thingy (dwnldd it)
 
 

back at the piratenpad you may see the only passage of mine that survived there so far:

Gold/silver backing wont work -- our GDP (and thats what currently backs it) is worth more than our total gold reserves, thats why we moved to a fiat system in the first place..

------ me:
this is the pessimistic diagnosis, namely that distrust will prevail (only lowtrusters demand gold) all others that work with contracts and
commitments don't need it --- read up on the Real Bills Doctrine. -- The Fed is top down and feed speculators.
 
 
 

     dutch lass >> > shakkarumpa:
     is ion a human microphone ?

me: is ion on wallstreet to help occupations .. trading his alliant tech shares for something a little less more ... ehr... metaphony?
 
 

http://s303.photobucket.com/albums/nn143/mysterybody/
 
 

Ck777 posts a Lessig vid called 'rootstrikers':
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnmcQf-yjAw

22:39 poetpiet: pffft, sure happy that didund go viral .... what a moronic term ...makes duh sense only to displaced whities on red soil ... at least subconsciously struggling the concept if not the reality of invasive species. Like bad guys are rooters. Bullshit. But literacy itself as a whole has become one horrendous pollutant even without dragging down the foundations of true standing. GROW don't strike roots.
 
 

back at the piratenpad some more:

     Many of these issues were addressed in previous #'s, please don't copy and paste for the sake of redundancy. I have crossed out issues already presented. Also Many of these are ideologies that would infringe on individual liberties. --

dude you prolly nixed my stuff yesterday eh? Mind affording me the same decency and tell me why too? I'd say the more the merrier and follow the colours you like. Be careful about fessing about though, i will be sorely tempted to reciprocate.

**** It is currently at throw-shit-at-wall-and-see-what-sticks phase. **** dustify walls, throw in shit and mix thoroughly ... presto .. energy, soil, live sticks
 
 

10th of october:

OWS is a huge shaming action aimed at those who refuse to and won't be shamed, named nor tamed. The unshamable will also obstruct any shading action, no matter how huge. But that might be the better, certainly more easily distributable and attributable, dispersable and catch-allable, catch-onable, not to mention the more honourable thing to do.

google shame shade and poetpiet for the 3 decade long run up to my thinking in their present stage of ripeness.
 
 
 

i realize that the last lines i wrote on the piratenpartei chat just before 2 am this morn were the motivation and justification for the ohnehin and anyway already all out - across the board assault on the music industry.
 
 

[09:22] <kizmut> Big ups for livestream
[09:24] <poetpiet> big down for all of ditigal and for that matter electric E-waste. ... and by the way ..... the whole Boston camp went into the trash .....
 
 

[09:26] <poetpiet> austin sign: we the people do decree, tax the banks and set us free .... is there a text file with all the protest sign txts someplace??????
 

[09:32] <poetpiet> old man in a wheelchair goes: we have the best gvt money can buy ... he should have said worst money to complete the equation ...and echo a forgotten past of state money 'vs' money ... the gender truce at work ... putting the highest possible value on their strengths but never taken over, down or bought out or off or any of those 'market' hijack snipermoneymen
 

i think this is Boston:
[09:39] <heyguise> a guy with a pro grade 2k camera
[09:39] <heyguise> was hit
[09:39] <heyguise> and his camera was thrown into a dump truck
 

[09:46] <G60Doogie> seattle live stream:
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/c00l-c-money
 
 
 

[10:42] -- me -- i often wonder what kind of rite protesters perform .. do they step up to the branding and possibly maiming plate in order to install the ruling dichotomy, divide and gaping hole into which disappear peace of mind, resources and all sorts of stuff better pooled on less contested ground?

[10:43] <poetpiet>
i realize it aint easy to pool and put to use allyallz efforts at more lastingly and/or more easily defensible/defendable locales with better effect.
it's one thing to mobilize people and material, quite another to keep them on their toes and all matters needful quite mobile enough to avoid what happened to the Boston media eqyipment (2k cameras flying into dumpsters ... and i guess the person who held it should be grateful for not having his brack broken like what happened in that state to a meanwhile old time long hair in 1981

[10:43] <poetpiet> also in Mass by the way
[10:43] <poetpiet> his yt account is medicinesocks

occupyboston arrests video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iu63e7QD_5k
they ARE asked to leave and stop tresspassing

[10:49] <poetpiet> ah ... i get it ... a silent march ...... that will distract from Nato bombing like nothing else .... nato is called otan by the hispanians by the way ...

[10:51] <poetpiet> wouldn't it prevent bit congestion if you blind your camera during angle changes? Just wondering .....
 

luke rudkowski (wearechange) chats with Roseanne barr briefly (1.54) twitter.com/lukerudkowski

http://www.flickr.com/photos/safesounds/6233328587/in/set-72157627743790407/
photo next to these kiddies playing red cross is a huge pumpkin painted grey

[10:54] <heyguise> Boston PD trending on twi

[11:06] <poetpiet> i would like to be known and feared as the white supremaciist who abducts entire police depts and dumps them in abandoned villages of france and slavic countries with permaculture manuels

[11:07] <poetpiet> they can take a few of the real criminals they are defending right now with them of course
 

[11:28] <poetpiet> i want effective protest, a huge radical grind-rock-up springcling thunderground around movement ... cause it will be .... effective ... and has the most entry levels and perks .....

... money used to be a celebration, illustration of THAT (the prechristian nature lovers era) and has degenerated into a distraction FROM it .... in an era leaders prefer more docile self-destructive and thus controllable and milkable crowds.
 

[11:45] <poetpiet> i am gonna google "lefty philanthropists" "community funders" ... place your bets on hits now ... back in a minute

[11:47] <poetpiet> 9 results for the fomer but both is a no go
[11:47] <poetpiet> Soros is a pied piper leading you into urban perdition ... not that you don't go there voluntarily

[11:48] <poetpiet> i am not a hair better as long as remain commited to change through use of alphabet
[11:48] <poetpiet> it's counterproductive and i realize it more and more each day.

 "lefty philanthropists" "community funders" -- 0 results
philanthropists "community funders" --- 2,270 results
 
 
 

on popout links
saves me a lot of processor juice that way ... kinda precious .. since i don't plan to ever upgrade except to the true info processor .... a compost heap and the vital implements for that .. is .. a rock grinder
 

on advertisements
[18:07] <poetpiet> they were doing logistics UPS ones earlier

     [18:09] <roastedcoyote> our local livestream got upgraded for free yesterday, no ads and more viewers
     [18:09] <KoolG> why for free? Do you know?

[18:10] <poetpiet> they are prolly still unleashing their ads on free accounts ... maybe even more so
[18:10] <poetpiet> i been at tripod for over 20 years ... and lefties always scolded me for it

     [18:10] <roastedcoyote> I don't know, the guy on the stream told us the viewer allotment went from 50 to who knows......also informed it had been upgraded by livestream and that it hapened all over the occupy streams......
     [18:12] <KoolG> That's why I love the internet so much. Never an ad anywhere ever if you know what you are doing.
 

[18:14] <poetpiet> yeah, but nerds like you never help the content specialists like me out and there's the fift an ... the there's the rift, the rubgub the divide
 
 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUrfA_NgWRI&feature=BFa&list=WL571DCF1B21EEAAB2&lf=BFp
young rightish UK dude on ows
 

your flavor idiotology deserves to dominate and lead the 'movement' (have my own qualms about that) as much as the next ... namely not ... clean pragmatics, modest logistics and fair demographics haven't been sighted yet

oooh, you poooor baby .... it just isunt monolithic enough for you to understand is it?
 

http://www.livestream.com/newchannel/popoutplayer?channel=globalrevolution
http://www.livestream.com/newchannel/popoutplayer?channel=occupyamsterdam
http://www.livestream.com/newchannel/popoutplayer?channel=occupydenhaagstream
 
 

[18:53] <poetpiet> http://worldwide-livestreams.blogspot.com/ i suggest breaking the streams page up into 2 or 3 for the slowpokes among us

     [19:04] <grape_crush> "20,000+ VOTES = 1 FREE GIGANTIC BILLBOARD."
     http://www.epicstep.com/campaign/337/occupytogether-occupywallst-billboard/

[19:23] <poetpiet> 27 viewers on the Den Haag (The Hague) stream -- here's the PopOut link:
http://www.livestream.com/newchannel/popoutplayer?channel=occupydenhaagstream
 

     [19:28] <legislationviagithub> heres my collection of links so far  https://gist.github.com/1266489

desert memists are succeeding in 'feeding' (feeless feed for the fearless martyrs, huzzaaahhh!!!????) the most fluid, neotenous and gentle of the west into the maws of those they have already snared and snagged into their violence and the violent breeding nets. Don't go there without thisknowledge. It's the best self defense there is. Dance around, don't be cornered and when blocked immediately swerve ... it's your strength .. saves wear and tear on breakpads and bonebreaks.

It makes me kinda despondent to see desert memists book success turning yall into throngs so familiar amongst the succesfully opressed and helpless.

 Yall gonna have to catch up on my work in a hurry. I wish i HAD uploaded all my folders to some share site or other already. Not sure i will emerge from despondency anytime soon but anybody wo turns up with a hard disk can get a load.

Don't blame WallStreet, blame the fact you delegated your money emission powers and needs out of sight and into the wrong hands ... and blame me for not making that obvious to you ... though god knows i tried for 2 decades already.
 

     [19:41] <grape_crush> "clear the air on some of the myths surrounding this movement in American society and politics."
     http://www.marketwatch.com/story/5-myths-of-occupy-wall-street-2011-10-11

     [19:41] <legislationviagithub> soylentia: what about the free energy hojo motor stuff? have you seen that?
     http://torianproyect.blogspot.com/2011/06/prototipo-1-prototype-1.html
 

[20:04] <poetpiet> guys guys, stop, swerve into a poor district .... we believe you are brave and bruise defying camera smash braving herooooos already. you are playing with fire ... only one rich bastard picking up the phone is enough to make it start raining trungeo s trungeons .....

[20:06] <mindspun> poetpiet: we're not playing with fire...these things do cause change.

[20:17] <poetpiet> ehhh ... mr bloomberg .... if they listen to me ... you owe me l... haaahahhaa!!!!

[20:19] <poetpiet> oh you lovely people ... why don't you all come and settle one of the abandoned villages in europe ... most of you are white anyways ... and lordy do theose swhity extremiss need good ezample

[20:22] <poetpiet> 5383 viewers .... shout it out and you'll attract the most ambitious and hopefully also the most musicall caller sloganeers to your mike

[20:43] <poetpiet> be nice to protesters and thus distract from fascist crimes in lybia
 
 

     [20:43] <poetpiet> be nice to protesters and thus distract from fascist  crimes in lybia
     [20:43] <snowcrash> Like what? Those by Gadaffi?
     [20:44] <snowcrash> And it's "Libya", not "Lybia"
     [20:44] <poetpiet> no he actually DID is IS fighting al CIA-duh
     [20:44] <snowcrash> poetpiet: No, he terrorized his own population
     [20:45] <chaz> what is the CIA-duh? is that some new covert black-ops division of the CIA?
     [20:45] <snowcrash> And Al Qeada is real.
     [20:45] <poetpiet> about equal amounts of results for either way to spell
     [20:45] <poetpiet> otan ... nato .... fascist
     [20:45] <snowcrash> Simplistic
     [20:45] <Arete77> we created al qeada

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-U9qHdsGU4
chris sedlmair
alle menschen die zu waffen greifen sind ratten ... deshalb lieber
verhandlen ... dann steigt man zu vogel status auf
 

http://occupystream.com

[21:14] <mindspun> for anyone who wants to have Environmental
Discussion please join #owsenvironment
 

[21:52] <poetpiet> this is what you idiots are distracting from and that's why they are leaveing you alone .. and even loving you
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zqb6Q65AdKc&feature=BFa&list=WL571DCF1B21EEAAB2&lf=BFp
[21:52] * kizmut [YouTube URL Detected from poetpiet] "Testimony of Libya - Lizzy Phelan - LIBYA ON WAR 11.10.11.flv"
 

state money to REPLACE politics .. and yes, kick the fast boy kind out
 
 
 

Hong Pong doing a whole hour on the 9th
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiEGnLke_cA

52m on the 5th
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hkk3JyEJbww
 
 

october the twelfth:

yall will have noticed youtube is flying off it's handle and i can't handle that. They'll have to go without me .... i am seriously thinking of
terminating my account here ..
 

[10:25] <poetpiet> ok, i'llsend it to drew hempel ..if he has not just mention but unblocked me as well .... common couitesy i would think
[10:25] <OnionMan> argh

 http://tinyurl.com/3ugwrfs -- its to ask the whitehouse and state reps to stop abusing protesters.
[10:22] <Clunk> Xzeropoint: http://wh.gov/2U0 ?
[10:22] <Xzeropoin
 

http://www.livestream.com/newchannel/popoutplayer?channel=owsoccupyseattle
 299 on the seattle stream ... seriously blips the pic ... sound ok ... here in holland
 

     Thanks for the invite.  I'm out in Washington DC at the moment and I'm not sure when I'll be out in Europe again, but Holland is one of my favorite places.  Thanks for watching my Laffoley video.  It's one of my favorites, but like you've mentioned no one has seen it.  I was close  with Paul while I was making it, but his gallery didn't get along with me and so when I completed the project it didn't get much exposure.  I think they hired a crew to make their own version of the same story and my independent movie could've potentially taken the wind out of their sails.  Anyway, in case you haven't seen the other parts of the documentary I'm including the links below.  I've started to explore your  YouTube channel and I am enjoying your videos.  Very refreshing point  of view.
 

[10:38] <TT66URH> off topic, but why do these sitcoms made for/and by african-americans feature one very overly silly and extremely stereotypical character?
[10:39] <TT66URH> seems demeaning to me
[10:39] <TT66URH> the real housewives are
[10:39] <poetpiet> fuck us media culture ... UNoccupy turtle island! Please the rightie whities and lead them by good example ... back to the abandoned villages of europe with a permaculture manuel
 
 

[10:55] <poetpiet> on today's world westwide media improper propcrop up http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44XOScQt5UM about how the badd ones are still trying to stir up more arms industry capitalislm
[10:55] * kizmut [YouTube URL Detected from poetpiet] "Do The Right Thing!"
 

[10:57] <poetpiet> occupytvny has a very expensive camera
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thUjppRFU4s

[10:58] <poetpiet> definite rainbow family flavor there ..... we looooove youuuuu
[11:22] <poetpiet> i wrote loads over the years on blocks of all sorts .... aint gonna do it allover again
[11:23] <poetpiet> a little info about yesterday's action, .... the walk to Paulson:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJgZdvwR7YQ --- 160. Economic Hypothication -- chris story - worldreports.org - 'eye fi' play on/off McLuhan -- Buzz doing great visual (colourpatterns), audio aired Jan/14/2009 - gist: Paulson came in 2006 to 'hypothicate' (keep the economy virtual and off shore, nontransparant) ---
 
 

[11:29] <poetpiet> co-lateral is vertical in my book .. the big radial radiant secret, green solar and the dark (rock) 'opened' to light .... been yelling this for 2 decades now ... but the hour is nearing yall will understand ... at last ....
 
 

anonymity lover lists are endless, here's the lastest (hope not) entry: offshoring illgainers who abcond w close coinshavins, leaving the shorn behind ... to send their kids to the army or ows
 
 

[15:37] <poetpiet> onioner, you are a treasure trove of riddles, ... what's the prob with the WayBack Machine?

[15:44] <poetpiet> the fed is like a clutch of ocean pimp, holding up the rain for ransom so it can't get down, .. won't come ... ehrrrm ... forget it

[15:44] <OnionMan> at any rate, the rest of government won't allow USPS to fold because of a minority intent to fold them
 
 

[17:28] <poetpiet> Nato pilots to continue cooperating with their fascist paymasters
http://www.seite3.ch/Libyen+Krieg+NATO+Piloten+verweigern+Bombardement+/511977/detail.html

[17:29] <Arete77> that seems to be the only real solution we should focus on.... getting money out of our democracy.  everything else is tied to that one cause

     [17:29] <whitestariv_mirc> elections are dumb if groups prove
     themselves better than individuals at decision-making.
     [17:29] <chaz_> Cygnus: that is why we must vote out politicians that allow corporations to wield that power.
     [17:29] <Arete77> good point whitestariv
     [17:29] <Arete77> chaz when you vote them out, another one fills their spot
     [17:29] <Cygnus> chaz:ok, let me repeat: but all of the politicians are bought and paid for...
     [17:29] <anonAZ> as long as money does influence the system it will.  we gotta either get rid of money or the system.
     [17:29] <chaz_> yes, the 1% thinks that way too whitestariv
 

[17:30] <poetpiet> Arete, wrong money, good money in ... read some Ulrich von Beckerath

     [17:30] <chaz_> Cygnus: go to you townhall, ask for campaign
     finances for your delegates. Don't vote for ones that support
     businesses that abuse the people. It can work.
     [17:30] <ddc302> u don't think ppl can see thru the money and
     see the person w/idea?

[17:30] <poetpiet> oop, wrong money OUT

     [17:31] <anonAZ> ddc302: not as long as money decides which ideas they see

     [17:31] <ddc302> the press .. and the internet can beat out 'money'  and its message?
     [17:31] <whitestariv_mirc> its harder to buy a group than just 1 guy.
    [17:31] <Cygnus> chaz:they all get funds from big biz...that is the system

     [17:31] <chaz_> if you have two candidates up for election and one takes money from corporations and one doesn't who might be a better choice
 

[17:32] <poetpiet> better yet, wrong KIND of money .... diversity of money as replacement and uptodateness of politics ... if that makkes sense

     [17:32] <ddc302> let them both speak ...
     [17:32] <ddc302> work it out with expression of IDEAS and
     sppech
     [17:32] <chaz_> Cygnus: That is chicken and egg thinking- we
     can't get money out if money pays for it, and money pays for
     it... we might as well pack up and go home then.
 

[17:33] <poetpiet> in the golden age of holland 1000 KINDS of money
circulated ....
 

[17:33] <Cygnus> chaz:ok pray tell, who is not receiving funds from big biz?
[17:33] <whitestariv_mirc> So for corporations it is very easy to meet anyone´s demands... so anyone can get sold out with ease.

[17:33] <poetpiet> no false advertising or political propagandists to be seen ... the good drove out the bad ...and kept it at bay
 

[17:34] <ddc302> false advertising - so produce a video to refute it.
[17:34] <ddc302> use media and inet to be effective
[17:34] <whitestariv_mirc> Instead, if there´s some sort of ´family´, I believe other members will put some pressure into everyone so that they make the right decision to achieve a common advantage.
[17:34] <anonAZ> just because you make a video does not mean people see it
[17:35] <balloonscanspellyourdoom> chaz_, you'll never get rid of the "bad guys" as long as the rules create bad guys. The rules have to change

 

october 13th:

[10:24] <poetpiet> settle in get comfortable on THE most contested, karmically laden, prime , desirable (supposedly), quasi ceremonial (miniaturization through specialism here we come/go/stay) and
prestigious bits of real estate around the country????? Delusional. Screaming won't do it, they have the amplifyers.
 

time to begin/resume yelling 'end the occupation' again yet?
 
 
 

[12:44] <poetpiet> poetpiet is now unknown as a cryptocraptor

Where and when the quality of violence is too low, Nato triest to get it condemned in the security council, cause they, as biggest supplier of violence are eager to show how it's done some more ... after all, the whole western ideology rests on the premise that violence has to be a monopoly .. this throws the first stone and sets the devastation tone, eating, drinking and the rest to follow the way  compost heaps, community gardens and all other aspects of live uncivil enough to show a trace of autonomy and sovereignty already went.
 
 

livestream.com/occupydenhaagstream

     dutch: tomorrow in holland! i will be there!

i wont but i am happy some of the concepts i have held dear and up for decades are finally starting to sicker through, peep n seep out ... show thru .. tcetera
too late though ... the ones about violence are not .... and present forms are runaway .. running into different walls
 
 

at the moment ..
friday eve
friday morn on Wall Street
the permapanic referee whistlers are trying to ... yeah, ... trying what ... catch the attention of their compatriots captured and stuck in padded cells nearby ... just to let them know they are doing their utmost to just push right on through to them closed doors they got cached behind due to their sheer bravery?

all i do know though ... is that i cannot stand it and it made me quit standing with the protesters as they were trying to .... do whatever ... at the occasion Ruud Lubbers came to Amsterdam. I had some tiny handouts ... and managed to slip the man himself one. That makes 3 (Gore, Arguelles ((also in a squat, elf .... ahhh, he prolly visited to try be faithful to his 11 magic i realize now)), Lubbers).
 

They lost me there and then ... and i haven't really returned their property, not physically ... except that we shared 'base' (toilet at the back of the park i lived right by ... under a giant elm ... till the city ordinance, bureaucrapparatsjik carried of home and content while i was at work.

end of Hock your Pie to the Pi inducskEye

help me recover some data please

harddisc defunct, lost 2 months of notes lost

prevent (splash)crash

do (please do doodoo) automate your back ups instead of resenting it as a chore ... for instance .. as in my case ... due to reconfigured folder constellations of collections large enough to seriously slow down the ever cursedly preferable 'fresh and refresh' succulent flesh operations, pulsing with live wiredness .. though mere substitutions and usurpations or the real thing (the bliss of which we can't quite handle yet) they remainder (busted, toxic waste):
The dust dist. road blessed w (zeg over genschap is een zegenschap) unravelled roc .. key .. road ..

google agbogbolshie in combination with
computer waste
remainders
what the low end of the comp 'in DUST ree' call 'export'

Jose Arguelles was right ... all the fancy and savantastic websites notwithstanding ....

So, ... dear dreamspell kin, let's find the largest expanses of cheap orchards for sale in the northwest euro world, pool our money, ban computers .. and focus on the decompacting of formation instead of on this devilish demonic compaction of information ... said it in the mid eighties and expected this eternal truth to become a serious, not contender but complementer (patrimoniously paritied partner in no time flat smooth polished and shiny ... but ....

thought it would help agression being made purposeful due to protecting a relatively uncosted from scratch thingie with smart permie methods and attracting the needie from ever further off.

sense making is right simple ...just ask the right people.





Toshiba 120G FM:AH001D
MK 1234GSX
HDD2D31 D ZK02 T
bottom barcode:
HDD S/N 37TETHGAT AE6 EC.A



info on the back:
TF473PL4S
white strip (perp)
TG5B0015
90000-A
small dark in top left corner

A5A001590 010A (the A in a square and after it 07 in black, larger)
bottom (cross view also)

straight:
FKN6GA
MDK239V-0N (the N is smaller than the others)



google hits for this don't look good enough to boost my confidence .... if yall have anything like the green plate at the back of the HD with matching info, please help


update (18th of july):
232 results for:
HDD2D31 D ZK02 T 37TETHGAT

.. here's hoping some of them will reciprocate a visit
.. wish me luck goin in to what i managed to avoid for 20 years.
.. until a splash of water helped the hellfires of Agbogbloshie to impinge on my conscience, bearing it down heavily, as it should do to all of them/us.

This is what they look like:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?VISuperSize&item=170628282173

at the portal of the dust-free top dollar world

at the front battle lines drawn in sand/oil vs soppie soil

Ante-ChrystalloGraviabler

ChrystalloGraviabler

http://hubpages.com/hub/Celtic-Gods-Cernunnos-the-Great-Horned-God

VAMPGYRL420
From Oak Hall, Virginia, U.S.A.
51 Followers
81 Hubs
Joined 18 months ago

a music vid (faith and the muse - heavy metal, eco guys .. angry near the end), a photo and some info:

Cernunnos' name appears on the Pillar of the Boatmen. The dedication to Emperor Tiberius is one of the earliest pieces of representative Gaulish sculpture to carry a written inscription. The Pillar of the Boatmen originally stood in the Gallo-Roman town of Lutetia. Here, Cernunnos is depicted as having a stag's antlers from which hang two torcs. The Pillar of the Boatmen is now displayed in the Musee National du Moyen Age in Paris and is known to have been created by Gaulish sailors in around 14 C.E. It was found in 1710 in the foundations of the cathedral of Notre-Dame de Paris, the ancient site of Lutetia, the civitas capital of the Celtic Parisii.



Google dressed up to get you in the mood mode before you get to see a nice photograph of the Reims Cernunnos

the first forum i see that insists on showing single posts, it's the only hit but once there
http://ancientworlds.net/aw/Thread/233418&start=20&date=&authorid=0&searchString=
you can click on over 40 contributions
looks like i'll make this my default google dress for a while perhaps:



Nantonos posts a map:
This map locates the following. if you know of others, please post here or leave a message:

Beaune (Côte-d'Or, Bourgogne, France)
Chesters (Northumberland, England, UK)
Cirencester (Gloucestershire, England, UK)
Clermont-Ferrand (Puy-de-Dôme, Auvergne, France)
Condat-sur-Tricou (Dordogne, Aquitaine, France)
Escolives (Yonne, Bourgogne, France)
Etang-sur-Arroux (Saône-et-Loire, Bourgogne, France)
Évreux (Eure, Haute-Normandie, France)
Izernore (Ain, Rhône-Alpes, France)
Langres (Haute-Marne, Champagne-Ardennes, France)
Les Bollards
Mainz (Rheinland-Pfalz, Germany)
Metz-Saint-Jacques (Moselle, Lorraine, France)
Niedercorn-Turbelslach (Luxembourg, Luxembourg)
Paris (Ville-de-Paris, Île-de-France, France)
Petersfield (Hampshire, England, UK)
Reims (Marne, Champagne, France)
Saintes (Charente-Maritime, Poitou-Charente, France)
Saint-Ambroix-sur-Arnon (Cher, Centre, France)
Seinsel-Rëlent (Luxembourg, Luxembourg)


He runs EPONA.net - a scholarly resource

everybody agrees the statue was found in Reims (or rheims) but nobody specifies when nor where it is now.

.... aahh, this is better:

http://www.ac-reims.fr/datice/hist-geo/dossier/musee_st_remi/docs/fiche_cernunos.pdf

Musée St-Rémi, 53 me Simon
Salles gallo-romaines

X

This work was discovered in the chaingang quarters of Reims 1837

Who ever authored linked description estimates the age of this particular statue to the second century ('not younger than 200 post JC').

Cernunnos depictions are much much older though, found very far from europe, in fact, specially if you strip him down to mere antlers, he's right up there on the most ancient cave walls ... around when he managed to muster help with rock crunching, coin minting torqueyness is yet to be determined and if that dynamite producer has any descendants i cordially invite them to come work for me.
Begin here: poetpiet cernunnos

also in french (more like the general wishy washy stuff but in pleasant colours at least):
http://druuidiacto.forumculture.net/t90-cernunnos

my first vid upload

managed to cut it in half and slap a liddul take down on it too! Woohoo! 'webbyrelevance'
the link is here:
http://sites.google.com/site/pieptoet/
the attachment there is an 82K file filled with notes about Bob Dobbs, who, like his mentor McLuhan - one among a handful he remained extremely loyal to ('vormvast' with) most of his life - was a fan of Finnegan's Wake by James Joyce.
Joyce was to letters what race was to arms.
Caution, thicket ahead.

Byebye Jose Votan, hello Bob Snobbs

lawoftime.org and lots and lots and lots of other places around the world
vs
a more US centric fivebodied.com - informationfarm.blogspot.com and lots of other places, like http://ionamiller.weebly.com/paramedia-ecology.html
more on that last one coming up

First, i express my regrets - not to mention guilt, 'warpraised' a true bible belt boy and tolerating 2 minutes worth of bible text from me mom's mouth daily - not having ((succeeded in drumming up support and)) supplied Jose what he so lacked, realized the need and yearned for, as do i .. and so i do this towards myself also .. hunger for tribal eye to eye link strengthening (rather than rot) drives and distract all of us, keeps us in a trance, ruining our appetites ....

i now find Bob Dobbs 'socialTIMEdia' wrestler traffic(king) A CROSS acriss macrotime, life and death ajoinments, Nahtstellen und joints, not just over emphasizing abstractions versus the practical consequences they are claimed to lead to but leaving out (betrayal in my book) the latter altogether.

Talk down and negation like that raises my ire so here goes:

look at prompted to try help supply balance and/or at least pointappetitapp hopper di hop to it, the now and future living .. though i am certainly not more hopeful about finding gardeners to sponsor or join among Bob's listeners than i was among the rainbow family that was Jose's recruiting pool.

Still, Bob's audio oddIsee has been rewarding for me so much it has caused a spike in jump in my attempts to skip sleep .. since the 27th.

What i meant is that Bob ain't even bothering with lip-service and elevating the lo goALL stake out any, let alone, hi status - garden-culture, best of the indigene medleys muddles, mediations and snuggle puddles - like Jose did .. but he's talking folks through mazes at amazing speeds and more accesible too (less archetypical cryptology more pop cliche) and what's more, the man IS approaching me by way of inverting the honourable impact into disgraceful betrayal by way of pronouncing this work and intimacy with gravity a switch flick trickering the law of attraction to come do its thing in our lives.

he admits to inverting the aaa ask access allow (Dave Worchester - the abrahams - Rahi) 'seek wench' ..
oops, ask, answer, allow

Bob don't like time, the growing season or anything that serves. The butler karma has thoroughly put him off nurture. And everything he does denies the grounded things his wife strifes for .. he just undergoes the ministrations (and motions no doubt) passively and benefits from them but the lady is surely betraying her aims by doing so to such a blaspheming denier, ... or is she? Either way, i am calling the Deans out .. both.

.. as i did the dreamspellian miscalculationists and disfrictfractinotionizers. stringing out their place taking into time making ... forgoing the hard slog of creating landtrusts, regaining sovereignty, seceding and so forth, for the quick cerebral fix.

Bob Dobbs (Dean really) is in lots of ways a worthy one to be targetted for taking down a few notches. The showmanshop disease of allocating lots of importance in 'conceptual break throughliness' hooey - to themselves, like all selfrespecting savious do - did not pass this lifetime (radio)talkshow host by unscathed either. And that makes him prime. Target. Boom.

I of course will have to spell out better that he inverts the 'lightening up gravity' (see the first 3 vids in my 'natural' playlist) to receive and weigh down sunshine (the 'accepting' part he plans to make 'selfseekinstant' without the work and soulsearch) before he understands.

native ceremony for the occupier thrice guilty

Turning to Bob, i get to be a nobody again, just like Bob .. who is fond of claiming that but as much as he is of it's inversion. He too, is hoping to do the 'don't energize the paranoia' village idiot routine, harmless and unharmed. The very tactic that got TvGogh offed but Theo was trying to fill too tall an order, coming from a secret service family as he did. Anyway, nice to take a break from the Bowie, Margret Hiroshima, HARMmanic kinvirgins conundrums and quandaries Jose - by way of Shearer as i recently found out via youtube on which i saw him do a sometimes angry talk with smidgens and smudgens of ritual (hoping it would 'go through the roof') .. .but in front of older fatter and mostly female 'TIOccupists', not militant youngsters who might join a blockade, inspired by the likes of Ward Churchill

and so, for now, Good abode Jose, Hellhole Bob
DogsPad Pacal, HurryHome Bobber

Bob the mad central 'first prototype' cerebration banker ('who doesn't die')

--------------------------------------------------
part 2 of Battling cosmETicists - since show(wo)men need it
first, a quick recap:
midmarch i listened to some William Irwin Thompson, saying McLuhan was a quite solipsistic borderline autistic person. Then ..

.. the 27th i begin a 2 day (and nite) splurge taking in a lot of Bob Dobb audio. Some of my earliest thoughts regarding him, beginning with a tentative bottom line:
McLuhan and Dobbs are Gamer World Ideologues

want another taste?
http://bobdobbstown.posterous.com/bob-dobbs-the-mcluhan-centenary-part-six
my fave so far ... the most relaxed music Zappa ever made. Him and drumming (serious and so not toned but certainly turned down)

.. at least half of the other mash-ups by buzzcoastin i tried are totally unpalatable due to 'over-accompaniment', 'missmixage', .. to be kind about it.

he overreaches too. Lots of youtube accounts with literally thousands of vids up are not safe from the copyright infringement claimers, no matter how uncurrent and educational the material. Germanicfolc had literally over 2000 nature and historical documentaries up but instead of prize, cherish and protect he did something less honourable and that buzz fellow by the way, can be seen taking the side of the chinese (where he lives) over google all over the net.

a range of unmixed stuff here:
fivebodied.com/archives/audio/catalog/CompleteBobTimeline.html
compiled by steve Reimer

fighting tec and spiri space races till my last breath
---- info volunteered upon application to the McLuhan google group .. prolly dead though. the Dobbs forum is too, more or less.

Bob claims (after McLuhan) the tactual is discontinuous ... used strategically by the secret services.
I take that to mean Bob is not in favour of atavistically holding on to centralism, censurship and 'moneyshopping' distortions, propaganda (disproportion)


compulsive masturbation? comes in many forms, this particular brand has its patients clutch their right to deniability.

Absurdization and distraction from ugly truth by way of alcohol addled situation and/or inspiration like Finn's Wake (itself making an effort to obscure and bury truth, yet show it off too in order to prove having that power)

McLuhan is the most cold-hearted philosophicationist of occupation (though one could mirroreverse his ((re)tribalization) formulas and claim he was propagating assimilation and urging people to do it right this time)... a thought striking me at the 18.37 minute mark of Channer's chat with Bob mid june 2000 ... halfway through the hour Bobb stuffs and tuck the grace notes in at a fine and furious rate, really packing some intricately multifacetted ones close nevertheless.

Willing to practice and speed up your licks and riffs yet another notch? In other words, can you perform and polish repertoire at the same time and at the drop of a hat? You either are a USaian or a prime suspect in the search for the wannabe infectee of this popular all too (massified) human pandemic

29th (eve):
ErisDiscordiana has a 7 hitter w Bob named ManyFesto
first part has pedal steel background music (which i am quite partial to)

"is there life before death" says Bob just before midway of part 2. Well, is life in front of death, ready to take it on and transform it, go through, take it and carry on with it necessary or wise if wishing for more life after death is wishable (and wise)?

bypass and pull your nose up at gravity and go straight to the 'law of attraction' bob??? What a childish simpleton you are. No awareness of hard honest sweat equity, pulling your weight, standing your ground and never mind being rooted. It's a dirty word for all those with the worst possible affliction amongst occupational hazards, that of occupier, descendants of missionaries, mercenaries, pilgrims, luckseekers, golddiggers and those harsh rent extractors severed from their roots, meanwhile overrun by the massification mechanisms the loot was being sacrificed to. You worship a form of this very cold disembodiment cause you suffer Oslo syndrom on top of karma that could be mended following a few simple rules of the like for which i am a lone but proud proponent.


a thought (cropped up at 1.13m of the 20th of feb 1991 - last of many Toronto radio shows):
americans can not be direct, all their conversations require filling to the brim with distance, however small but hugeually large. They're lost, the lost, lack direction .. are mediated, ... yet make a great show of being o so direct, warm, welcoming and open .... rather than a great big ugly collectivized warmachine.


wee hours of the 30th:
"cavalier about an old environment" says Bob at 13.22 of the 4/10 05 hour called 'building organic bodies', a series in which he debates a yoga teacher. Why don't you try on 'betray an old environment' for size bob!?!?!


30th morn:
Bob likes to do something the one time Mauii resident therapist charismatic marathon speaker John Ray (body-electronics) liked and recommended (to testdrive) also: encompassing dualities. Bob take a few year for each set though. In 1996 he bitched about Rockefeller making a real estate grab for the moon (or mars) even while hoping and speculating about some of his recorded voice reaching the man's ear ... since he studied under and inspired W I Thompson who WAS under such desired sponsorship at the time. Kinda like me findng comfort, identity, confirmation annd encouragement in the fact i read about the Hopi elder/shaman's vision of the spirit helper with the red helmet, .. well after 98 when i uploaded all 2 pictures (apart from my youtube avatar, recently photographed off of paper) i had to show for wandering turtle island in crisscross fashion for 7 years.

... nearly 15 years later now .. but still a bit rich to see him do exactly that:

"It's almost like the astral plane wants to get here, cause this is better than there"

there appears to be no transcript around ---- quoted from the end of part 3, all of which hosted at that Iona Miller link who by the way, is a brainy and magicartsy gal, another white person shamelessly supping up the vitality of native america to feed fever dreams of tecsolutions with reckless abandon, most of which if and when tried, cut that proceedure shorter very rapidly with rampant polllution (Bob's a ((killer))fusion man himself).. in other words, the progression of agriculture/colonialism disease (this 'ziektebeeld') is clear - all space race and space age imperia captives sooner or later toy with extropian singularitan and assorted ideas of their own accord. Eating light and more such bullshit (part 4).

What fits to follow up a rant about lazy 'imagine' hippies?
Right, a HollowCostly brainfart:

"did not know what was happening" .. "global concentration camp"

How does flattering jews work out for you Bob? Just like you, they were/are - but cannot (be allowed to) in perpetuity remain - collectively 'past-phobic', entitlement mannerism riddled yet blind, and though the vast majority of any kind of population was and always is innocent, the reason for multiple expulsions ought to be curriculum material instead of suppressed, prosecuted and propagandized away at all cost.

he goes:

How we can allow the registration of the positive facts of being dead.

---- Not: hey, let's develop our perceptions ('have eyes') and appreciation for plain rock, not so dead without perks after all, etcetera
... or
'well, let's prevent this race/culture to remain at liberty to (re)produce bastard banker culture and shekel them to a compost instead, liberally supplying them with stinking crud for them to turn over and over into great credit. Give them raw sewage and rocks, if they won't mix it they will sit in the stink, lose nutrients (we'll put some adequate filters around them, turn their desire for control against them.

None of that, Bob remains firmly entrenched in the fringe distracting from inner uglier workings.

As a good and proper addict to and prophit of the substitute surrogate prosthesis make believe arsenal of a dedicated somnambulist psycho he recommends reinventing contrast. physical deeply ill and falling away, it cannot contrast with non-phizz anymore

"cause nothing is being contrasted, with the non-physical"

Bob!! Bob! Boohhhoobbbb!!!! Over here mate!


In part 5 Bob goes off about hidden ground, mystery landscape, hope (blackness of obama symbolic). Those who have studied (like) me will see he is obscuring and co-opting ground rock .. vital beauty through mistery (in my sense of the ye odd aud auld concept), etcetera

... "mystery landscape can be known, and that's what i'm doing, then it falls away as a hidden effect on us, in other words, it weakens the role of obama's mystery body, we don't need the mystery body anymore if we understand the mystery and experience and allow it to happen."

(occupier's populist paranoia about obama overtones bob??)
After this he, confusingly enough, gets into what was allowed to happen economically.

Talk about this kind of thing condoning and producing shameless bonus cultures. It's a world wide greed-race / arms-race dialectic even as the progenitors pretend to 'go home' and are perfectly justified to solicit and engage the whole world for help defend it, not with trees but surveillance tec and agression.

Then it's time for ... and when is it ever not, specially after a lapse of a few minutes, to once again (chronic really) remind his audience that the past is gone, ..


i haven't even touched on more than a hundredth of a percent of all the double backs he performs.

i wrote a refused comment here:
i wrote a comment refused here:
http://monkeywah.typepad.com/paranormalia/2011/02/bias-and-climate-change.html

Drew:

There is a deeper conspiracy about climate destabilization. The modeling is so complex that super computers are relied on and "quantum chaos" is the science used. Quantum chaos means that the computers create the logic through reiterations. Steve Strogatz, a quantum chaos mathematician, warned about this in 2006 for the Edge science journal -- no longer is human rational argument in control of science. The computers are in control and the computers don't care about ecology, etc. That's why there can be no real proof for global warming, etc. -- the means to measure the change are creating the same change as the effect of measurement. Rational human thinking, in fact, has never been "pure" -- just as global warming has been traced back to the rise of human agriculture.

Posted by: drew hempel | March 01, 2011 at 01:11 AM

how do you like that? .. coming from a guy who on the same day manages to once again, and after such a long time of obs opps, even still, even yet, remain a fop, sop and sap (and root for) for a liddul china man who once pushed himself into knee pain (i know exactly what that's like) until a 'master' (cough hack, he really means circusman*) told him to sit still for 7 hours .. then he started to heal.

http://naturalresonancerevolution.blogspot.com/2011/02/chunyi-lins-instant-teleseminar-replay.html#
13MB

don't he come up with pretty free-way similes though? So sweet. "sluggish vehicles. hu ha huah".

what a fucking crock. Can i send you an unconditional bill for wasting my time listening to you? Have you healed your wife yet, asshole?

* check that lovely link to monestaries, plenny of whities over there now, female and fuckable too. Hell perhaps they can even finance this ancient recluse-cult of remoteness mystique ... benefits from visits to which were and ascribable to the exertions and adventure needed to go there. Now a christianized china man in western urban enviro is a much more iffy proposition. He's got new tricks up his sleeve though. He can direct investment of his energy savings account, despite its huge bulging and toutly globusboundsbursting and intercarnationally stellar bulk to believers in him through the tiniest and modernest of modernist and on the whole poisonous to all culture except monoCultYore ... and i don't mean monkeys either. I am all for monks in the middle, delighting in humble yet most basic building blocks or harmony (herbs, fruit, compost, shit, etcetera) but monks with refugee pedigree, the very ones with fabulous reps for being so prosecuted tend to tender pretension.

Meanwhile, the statues of the real archetype anywhere close to deserving status are crumbling and the professions flowing from their inspirational practice are as good as extinct, with worryingly exceptional exceptions ... unbelievably precious ... which gets me in direct competition of miracle claimants and the plague of snake oil salesmen and secretive secretion pressure exploiting potion peddlers. Not the type of company i tried to find and invite to join me in delight about the notability of Cernunnos-like after 'shockarockas'

you know what' really funny too? Chunyi lin's page title is: 'incompatible webbrowser' and has been for months.
he is fishing in the dregs of unbalanced and nontalented people obviously. 'incombattible prowesser' would be an improvement no?

the middle east is the wild west

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWjflaVwLpU
Anne Baltzer (jewish)
part 1 had 1150 views since november 9 09
she shows slides

part 2 - 12.370, april 15 07

part 3 17.319 ... a must see (at 'jseraphim' .. who has 4 of the 6 parts .. and that's all he has up except for a recent thing with him thinking aloud and sounding pleasant)

links to all 6 parts have rotted already here:
http://socioecohistory.wordpress.com/2009/01/16/life-in-occupied-palestine-anna-baltzer/
it's been linked back to by the poster as late as 3 months ago though ... this is likely one of them cases where thought police with media influence (choose any from the palette of zionists flavors, from trotties to o so pc obomby liparules or something, most likely) are disrupting counts to be able to pretend their opponents have no popular support as they and their establishment colleagues everywhere do routinely regards any and all protest (if not worse)? Craig Cobb's blogger and youtube accounts were suspended just yesterday. I'd rather folks got articulatey disgusted and corrective on his ass than him having no blunderbuss .. so to speak.


that said though, it is unmistakable that most vids here
http://www.youtube.com/user/Cfalcon7688#g/u
on similar topics and presumably similarly competent people have been
up for 9 months though only the occasional one gets above 400 views!!
W.T.F??

anne speaking outdoors part I 7 pieces
anne speaking indoors with slides part II 13 part
hundreds of vids up here

http://www.annainthemiddleeast.com/photos/


Hah! Quite funny, a guy he calls a loon DOES get better viewing
numbers.


"Wake Up Call" by Amir Muhadith (Loon) @ UCI (Part 1)
9,659 views - 1 year ago
10 parts .. well over an hour

... i reall don't find him loony at all, a little too bent on shinily oiled class
one leather rags perhaps .. but that's the most innocent, merely skindeep
of extremisms. Just a layed back easy on the eyes muslim black dude with
a beard, poster boy for conversion

oh .. wait, his stage name was loon ... i see him in white speaking from
SA on Aljazeerea right now.


channel comment pointin to this here post:
http://www.youtube.com/user/jseraphim
I wrote a post about your vid series.
in particular the close (not to say klef, dutch for nasty) relationship of
settlerism to american 'occupists'.
Parallels between of them are so hard to miss that it takes down all the
trees in order to keep up the propstunt that props the house of lies and
keeps the 'pierced' marked deck of cards in use.



http://annainpalestine.blogspot.com/
Anne's own place


essentialdissent.net presented a number of speakers in front of Binghamton students via youtube some time ago. One of them is Khader (? a female american):
"half the children in Gaza have lost the will to live"
up since februari 13 2009
viewed 511 times -
.. in the very last minute (where the vid cuts off*) she brings up native
americans (the only people disheartened on a par with Palestinians, though on
a much much vaster scale and longer too ... so far, ...

* .... the whole video can be found at the site of this youtube
accounter:
essentialdissent (for the .net domain).

the middle east is the wild west

the former an affirmation and retroactive justication of the latter
trying to give it legitimacy through continuation
showing that the practice did, does and will continue to enjoy impunity

the former an affirmation and retroactive justication of the latter
the zionists (the name jewish imperialism ((in existence since babylon began stockpilin, hi-risin and bookkeepin)) assumed and began sailin under in an era just passed wherein the UN explicitly granted palis the same status ... which was exactly the wrong way around already), their agents whippin po white boys into religious frenzy, plunging kahallogos up and down throats the owners temporarily tune and black out to focus on bank accounts and brat brood benefits

hey presto, legitimacy through continuation
it is indeed america that is protecting and funding the settlers physically, but mentally the flow is the reverse, the other of a two way reciprocal, the reflux ... so you cannot ask the ordinary american to stop funding the settlers unless you explicitly point at the consequence: repatriation to europe. That will help american to identify with settlers. Not sure i succeeded, but i wrote this rant to make you click this link:

the settler serves the american (a-me-rich-one) by being a lightning rod for what went on for centuries, known as 'going west', which did, does and will continue to enjoy impunity as long as we do not deny them more than enough choices for friendship near and far. If we don't do that soon their consciences will darken and the consequences of that will probably destroy even the greenest of green (and i don't mean the most devout of islamisms either).


jac-esa : Izr-Pal : glo-loc
jaco-esau : glob-loca: Izra-Pali

see if my dewbe tubey' whirl waves won't wash

http://www.youtube.com/user/poetpiet
33 favorites now (mostly music)

one of 3 playlists:
tony rice mix
41 vids

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JV0i5eoRC6s&feature=artist
pride of man, finally found on youtube - i am 666th (or -7th) player - up
since july 18

citified slacker blockhead stacker

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EV_qWOOSM_g
Lo Shu Magic square origins - Shemhamporash and 'Prometheus rising' coil..wmv -- 322 views
theleeburton
shemhamporash and prometheus

his new blog:
http://loshumatrix.webs.com/apps/blog/

.. did not take my comment so i sent him an email

the vid narrator (after that throaty and shy 'Massachoowish' folk singer) mentions nuclear fire at 5.10, the denies that the creation stories involving turtles are truth ('tales' people used to 'make up'). He, like his 'many people' are happy to disgard them in favor of nuclear knowledge.

The ancient stories are simply good, not good FOR nuttin but inspiring awe. And nuclear energy displaced from where it belongs turned out to sure as hell be neither good, nor good for anything let alone the nice type of making up. Not for nothing is there a (w)irecrossage with that other way to make up (objectified it becomes applicable, withholdable and ... well, simple put in 'service' of whorages multifariously. I for one, have little doubt that he (who accuses of 'making up') is himself the uppity maker here. That is curable: tie to compost heap, grant all the hi-tec they care to use for making the fresh type of ashes alluded to with which they can process their equally well deserved fresh sewage ... while we educate the rest to not let that sorta most sovereign sort of pleasure out of their hands and sight. NuClearFire is worse than worthless when it comes to this 'making up' (with +spin), so sorely needed.

Ironically the giffie you have spinning with slight variation for minutes around mentioned point is VERY reminiscent of what you see here: www.pan-holland.nl *

Which tells me you are in awe of the speaker and want us to pay attention while trying to help by not distracting us too much.

* - It was inspired by Jose Arguelles, THE man to make turtle lore and indiginous respectable (rather than haughtily scoffed at and abandoned like the man you feature does) in that he rectified the tzolkin correctly (proof is delivered many a one of the 52 days (out of the 260 round) that are 'gap' and statistically correlatable with earth quakes.#
My signature happens to be heavily connected to Hiroshima and don't find anything about it 'more remarkable' than the simplest of rock grind and polish products, perfectly reducable ashes (faultlines, fractions, pretty swirls and riddly puzzle pieces as in mineral molecules), perfect sunlight receptacles in tandem with water (so your love for symmetry won't suffer a bit), I suggest you get on with it, lest you get stuck in this savantatious hirn spinnery like another merlin caught up in another crystal of symmatriculation

# - emergent-culture.com

a comment continued

http://kenokeefe.wordpress.com/2011/02/15/the-egypt-under-mubarak-blockade-of-gaza-is-dying/

Come to think of it, if you look as whities as halfway to asia (USaSian?) the watery way (the overland one had been done to death ... and it would be going against prevailing traffic in a way (read Weatherford on the mongols) .... just yesterday i examined how smoothly asians adopt indian ways, in Manipur they mouth and mimic mainstream India a whole lot faster than actually look anything like it, aint that like turkish sounding mongolians? I will return to Manipur in a minute.

a song called Gun by Todd Rundgren - Album: Arena

www.metrolyrics.com/gun-lyrics-todd-rundgren.html
When tribulation makes me need to unwind
And pierce the air like I'm in Palestine
Here's my gun
This is my rifle, this is my gun
This is for fighting and this is for fun
I hate to gush but I'm your biggest fan
I really love the way you fit my hand
You're with me always like a wedding band
More than a friend to me, my true identity
You're smooth and hard and that's the way you stay

Todd making fun of the fighting fetishism
Is this a beat that can be used for a step by step people's army??
A lockstep or a rock step?
another song on that album goes: why not here why not now, why not today ... today's the day we're gonna settle our scores .. bycause tomorrow we are gonna wake up even

Or would banging and grinding rocks together over one's head do the trick?
Beware flying splinters and bounce off (the most innocent form of blow-back totally betrayed and abandoned by the 'defense' industry .. How far back did Orwell trace that 'usage'(/abuse)? Or did he?

Aint the most ethical hebrews, rare pearls in a sea of biblical camelslop on (such dubious) record to have had a thing for ashes? Wasn't all easy ashes was it? They weren't all pyromaniacs i trust .. but then again, nor are they famous for insisting on 'nobody for president' and 'afforestation (groves, orchards, treehousing projects) for legacy' are they?

But can we blame them for actively suppressing such repute? And if so then what? Blame them for white skin in america, Oz, etcetera? Holy book crowders, voice boomers, abused to 'order' ammo rather than blow minds. Are a few herds, dumbed scared and tired enough to spend their days in ammo factories enough to spoil a little little glob(ul)e like ours, like the proverbial bad apple provisioners neglect to remove from the pile?

..an american is an 'arma yideon' and cernunnonians are a dying breed..

it's not unimaginable that ([pre]dominance of) a meme like 'women and children first' will sooner or later have the opposite number of such birthing (deathing?) as (inescapable?) consequence: 'martyrs for firing lines' .. unless they are not specially partial to young and tender, including the sewage digesting oxides, that staple for the bottom rungs and humble beginnings of all chains of life and being. Such a people, an accomplished enough band or tribe or gardening guerrilla with permaculture credentials known to even the remotest of their brethren, is not known to me, other than in limbo, the liminal conceptual promisory potency one must accord even the most offended, mocked, betrayed and nearly washed out memory of better days.

i'd grant all tiny grouplets 'gunning' for that all the demographic incontinence they thus afford ... but i despair of getting the cheaters out of the way.

It's like Middle Eastern semites and semi-semites repel each other and drift apart only to meet a full fool's errand round later.

Settle chore = sprinkle the dust across the sewage, render it oderless, preserve the precious compounds ... fertilizer anybody???

Settle chore vs stettle whore

i wonder how long we must wait (around) before revolutions start implying, not drawing lines anew but withdrawing from them, secession .. not ghetto like but as a self-sufficiency AND inviolability measure written into international law AND enforced ... the need for that is obvious for anybody who looks at this area .. and i do not care if they choose to judge by a scope of decades or centuries.


Manipur has an endangered deer with a beautiful rack ... it tells me volumes about the status of nomansland .. not man's (but animal's) land, it vanishes as the borders sharpen and ever sharper shots ring, no matter what language they sing. Installing asian authoritarianism anybody?
Andrew Lehman has fun little orientalish 8fold mating and matching schemes on that by the way (neoteny.org)


Where IS the truely white way of sparing no effort and expense for (enhancement and nurture of) noman's land, vying for the honourable title 'lord of animals', every little township it's own league, entirely replacing militance or the goofy footballery ... quite as gay as the banned superbowl ad (good old dutch insurance salesmanship was a bridge too far but mercifully, youtube can take it to 2 miljan people. Any expression of superiorty, haughtiness, put down, irredeemability is evidence of contamination with the enemy's arms. Under no none of all possible circumstances are we to use the enemy's methods (soft nor hardwares). Why do you think they get away with a 'Dresden was justified', 'Gaza was a ok'. Well, they rip the denigration out of your hands and use it against you.
there is no progress except through temptation. An industry on lockdown (hollowhood) almost as much as Palestine is. True simple truth imaginatively rendered is left nudged pushed to and over the margins without any qualms.

The 'degenerate art' call the nazis made and all that greenishness the vote for them promised and called for was totally betrayed, sacrificed, sold out and slaughtered by the jew and what their 'advance' (financial) forces managed to make Hitler do.

Nevertheless, oulmouthing is always reactionary, and using it, like any trojan they slip you, defeatist and counterproductive.

easy for me to say here .. now .. instead of in an all bets 'offing', under fire situation. This realization makes my admiration for Ken that much keener.

Not for nothing did Ken harp on having no use for and having made no use of what he took from his waylayers (a forward thinker would prepare a cache in order to negotiate stuff ... like reciprocal return of property ... if no better agreement ((like arms conversion#)) than that each be returned their own devices ((and return to their own vices)) can be reached).

This gets the masses behind you. Show you are stern and principled but not out to kill.

Failing on that front, even if only occasionally and/or in an unmenacing tone is what makes (jew-critical) folks like Alex Linder and Craig Cobb so pitifully marginal and ineffective against their target. Actually, they do it on purpose just as much as they feel ((and their constituency does .. that)) gun flaunt and flourish is virtuous or something .. like Todd sings. But ... something to be said for everybody being everything part time, down with professionals and work, up with amateurs and hobbies. down with private subscriptions and armies of paperboys, up with libraries/social centres.

So i admire the honour seeking facing off with militance of somebody with a military training ... rather than like mary, suspecting Ken of seeking militance for its own sake, a closet addict to mayhem and megalomania, plagued by vision of it and pretending it's a yearning for justice, like much of the white right does.

#I have some newsletters from the eighties i could show you and see my ideas of the hardware needed to pull of a musical rock grinder act in the festive spirit such an effort so richly deserves and is denied and detracted from by the Bolshiwood wherewithall crowd.


ps: a sample of the good old times
http://xymphora.blogspot.com/2009/01/war-crimes-evidence-keeps-piling-up.html

the only other mentions of palestine at songlyrics are by
1 a gospelsinger
2 one that hybridizes western pop with arab music
3 an arab song with horrendous idf cruelty footage


Peter Liam Holcross: Palestine
The sun still shines the same upon the land
The mountains and the hills and every man
And yet there is the stain of oppression in the Land.

PALESTINE ¦ you are deep within the heart
Of all the children of your land
Whose hopes in you are chained:


Maher Zain
Palestine Will Be Free
begins with sound of gunfire


Raihan
Untuk Mu Palestin
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDwQLQrUkRE
62.000 views .. .shows arm breaker footage ... and not the kind i envision

jebatdex | October 08, 2006 | 66 likes, 3 dislikes

Perjuangan saudara seagama di Palestin, mempertahankan bumi yang dijanjikan. Adakah kita menyedari hakikat ini?

The strive of our Palestinian brothers and sisters in defending the promised land. Do we realise about this?

http://www.youtube.com/redirect?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.inminds.co.uk%2Fboycott-israel.html&session_token=VaqL_RTVpcdA8ySAMg8BwZNf0E18MTI5ODExNDgzOQ%3D%3D

Lyrics translation:
Make zikr , in the name of Your Lord
Pray in the midst of the night
Repent with full of humbleness
So our doa' may be granted.

So we may own Palestine once again
So Palestine will be free once again
Peaceful once again, shine with truth
Of Al-Quran and Sunnah.

Palestine will be ours once again
Remember Allah and keep away from sin
Palestine will be peaceful again
With Obedience and Good deeds.

With Iman and Taqwa to Allah
The Most Powerful
Fear and Weakness
Bullets and strikes
Is no more obstacle
Allah's help will arrive.

Palestine
Palestine
Palestine

Helping Palestinians

INTRO
the BBC has a big NASA focused report these days and the guy was on a bout a 'changing tide' as i listened.

Hell i fully agree but not in his favour. Turning the tide for and of rockets is to ROCK IT very very much closer to home .. . which is our home less and less wholesomely without that vital ingredient coursing and structuring organisms. Outer to inner space .. through rock no man went through before .. certainly turns an obsession/hobby of the comet-like global rock star i share a (dreamspellian) time-stamp with on its head.
Alien Rock article by Sean Casteel
http://www.seancasteel.com/AlienRock.htm

Gimme a hand putting an end to machismo please, or failing that to put it to good use, ethicalized and all. Since they tend to picked (on/)out for breeding, might as well make it(/out) well.
As we all know the dominant routinely put life to death, specially when they scare savants into brewing even scarier plagues (calcues kill and the UK is whirl chimp IzzyShallShill didle you frevermore).

The transformation of machismo could save us time and money, not to mention grief in stupendous amounts. Leaving us with enough time .. for once .. and about time! .. to put some towards a tide a turnachearnin, rocks on the crunch .. get it? rocket becomes rock it and the rhythm-noise becomes very substantial anchorment of roots after the let fly (dust blown into rainstorm) phase.

That be not my - but after and without me remains THE - recipe for stopping the betrayal of the whole earth with spacetravel. That would(/will? not sure) be a change of chtonic and titanic proportions ..

By comparison, if all emigrated whities would clean up their act: start restoring whatever their ancestors found, back to the way they found it and return to their own people where a similar (perhaps even harder) task awaits (thoug by then..) .. it would constitute a turnaround of only epic proportions.

And now that i'm on a roll with radical inside outing, how about not just taking a person's nose out of the stars (trailing NASA junk and waste in his 'train'/wake) but personhood altogether?

No lack of projected, burnished, hyped, polished, transpositioned, deified and all the rest of it? Jeebus as the stellar one steps dow nto earth for real this time, to just another idealstic one fancying sounder purposes for metals than put to by coiner and motorer. A mythic owner of might and right becomes a steady stream of season followers, holy men migrating from door to door with musical rockgrinders instead of tinkersmithies (shear sharpeners, story tellers, shamen, snake oil salesman, a complex procession that kept crossculturality on the road instead of dispersed and settled into permanent mayhem.

The only heaven you can ever get is what of it comes down to you. All humans projected into the sky are just a traumatic aftershock of colonialism and the irresponsible, incontinence demography-wise. perped by cowardly machos looking for cannon fodder or Rothchillen (networkers, pigeon breeders and other bird abusers)

Culprits/victims need to be stepped up to in order to help them step down. Step them down from suspenseful apparation positions. Realize we need to keep on counting on (THE REAL) them (ensure compliance, prisons need to become monastic orders, healing herbs grown in full spectrum force carrying (and yielding), freshly composted minerals) in order to and to have a change at successfully counting (THE FAKE) them out, very far out. Out so far them spectres remain in a rightful place, are seen in proportion, as a mere distant trace. Regular, steady .. as a true and nothing more than a real star.

3 wise men (lined up in the sky as ever) moving the star of bethlehem in line with them (the vica versa is equally untrue, purely mental .. as yet in this case, luckily and thank the gods) and then the four of them pointing to the exact spot where the one and only first sun of the year will peep over the horizon?

URLzzz???? i trust you'll find them, hint:
Acharya S made a career out of this knowledge which has gone viral and she is alive and well.

Now for people that move, put and lay their lives more in, on and along lines of more dangerous fire. Meet Ken O'Keefe.


http://www.gilad.co.uk/writings/ken-okeefe-interview-with-jonathan-adams.html
conversing with Ken for over an hour

harrowing vid alert
www.gilad.co.uk

i will be talking about Mary (and comments at her place). i 'found' M Rizzo trying to follow Rowan (XXXXX) around the net (one of the few men who ever answered a comment of mine ((in endearingly critical fashion sometimes, more often uncomprehendingly)) at the indymedia sites i frequented between 99 and 03).

She used to edit and publish Gilad a lot (on her 'peacepalenstine' blogspot) .. but let him go as taskmaster meanwhile. What she has not stopped is posing a picture of herself young and most beautiful, kinda unforgettable and least so to herself apparantly .. but it has caused a distortion in her perception of purity .. it raised my eyebrows even back in october 05 already - when my nearly 2 year spate of her blog started, to banter with a handful of people there - and even more so now.

in march 03 i discovered womenspeacepalestine.org
(5 languages at it for 5 years) .. but did not make much of it

october 05 i wrote:
It's not hard to find Rowan commentin around the net, 550 hits, ..
-- update: 376 meanwhile, google must have pruned the fishing and autopaging quite well --
.. here's one at an ozzie jew's blogspot (antomyloewenstein's) who has noted bnai brith with starting number two too, boohoohoo (a counterpunch(tuat)ed 'vertigotiable'): jew-sponsored-stock-car-booed-off

http://palestinethinktank.com/2010/12/06/truth-justice-and-peace-nearly-sunk-as-rth-convoy-facts-emerge-and-as-usual-gazans-get-the-worst-part-of-the-deal/
Palestine Somoud: Arab Voices of Resistance » item + over 160 comments - 550K
Truth Justice and Peace nearly sunk as RTH convoy facts emerge, and as usual, Gazans get the worst part of the deal
really loooooooonng big ass borderline boring post by Mary (with whom i bantered and cantered friendly enough for a few years up to 2006) casting a great big stream of innuendo on Ken O'Keefe' behaviour negotiating the obstacles Road to Hopers found in their way throughout Lybia

Mary on Ken:

A purposeless “signal distress” for the seamen is simply a sacrilege. A “captain” should have known that.

If the neighboring vessels had responded to this “distress call” only to realize that there was no emergency at all, the person who actually made the “distress signal” would surely face claims of hundreds of thousand dollars by the ship-owning companies of these vessels for unreasonably alerting neighboring ships for a non-emergency situation.

Video uploaded by Mr. O’Keefe on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71AARnihrsQ
In 10:14 of the video: Mr. O’Keefe making a “distress signal”
++++
In 10:14 of the above video we see Mr. O’Keefe making a “distress signal” and his communication with the neighboring vessel MV OOCL Oakland.
However, in 10:34 of the video it is obvious that one or more pieces of the footage have been cut. Why would Mr. O’Keefe extract pieces of the original raw footage?


Arbuthnot (brave Shield movement member in Iraq):
He scared them to bits. So another initiative for peace, of huge and desperate (literally) importance which was nearly destroyed. One could not possibly comment as to why this keeps happening, but it does seem like controversies dog all he is involved in. Having also been only an "armchair" watcher re the latest debacle, what does stick in my mind is the, number of times before it happened, how he wrote of the time for confrontation drawing near.


short version of Mary's take:

#comment-19036
Mary Rizzo on December 9th, 2010 at 10:58:
It IS a scandalous tragedy. Face these FACTS
1) there was NO contract.
2) K o'K and K Turner refused to leave the vessel
3) obstruction was placed on the vessel to prevent it from leaving
4) the vessel had written port clearance to leave absent of cargo
5) once the ship was leaving, Ken admitted OTHERS jumped on board.

.. by the 57th comment Mary gets downrite fishwifey:
"..personal soap operatic drama of an adrenaline junkie."
there's a few commenters who stick up for Ken, like Eileen, Eric Verlo (who i have had the pleasure of reading in personal print .. though i slacked off .. for over a year already ... my my), Sam, who goes:

"As you can see from her childish name calling (King Tatt, O'Con, etc), she displays a behaviour that one would expect from a teenage girl with self esteem issues."

comment 87, 130 (and at least one in between), written by Xa are, by far the best ... so far, though not entirely fair nor accurate either (no connection between these convention breakers .. with and towards the greatest harmony possilbe and the egyptian uprising, really? See the vid of Ken finally crossing the Egypt/Gaza border?).

Xa is quite solidly on mary's side but with succinct and dehydrated argument (not to mention better language economy ... what a babble box Mary has turned into):

And yet, despite believing (against all evidence) that they would simply be allowed to tag along into Egypt, none of them bothered getting visas to go through Egypt!
Almost everyone on R2H is a person of deep conviction. Those who led it, who lied and conned people – surely not just O'Keefe (he joined in Tripoli, he was not responsible for all the claims about "al quds convoy")

.... alas, on comment 156 xa loses all decorum, objectivity and benefit of doubt towards Ken, claiming he's in Gaza to abuse their hospitality. Low Blow.

xa posts157 as well, a participant account by Sonette is worthwile (perhaps to many overly concerned with budgeting and funds solicitation. A 'Magic Hat' discussion of a type i know quite well. And Butterfly Bill's yearly rainbow gathering accounts usually have a hat ingredient. I love them all).

It's a harrowing read:

Our van was almost empty and we only had a few boxes of food stuff, Judith's mom's beautiful knitted toys and our own personal belongings. We were told that they collected about £4000 from the convoy members, the vans were paid for (?) and we left in the middle of a sand storm. The storm became worse and worse and about 20 minutes after leaving the hostel our van broke down. This event is fully documented in Judith's report. I totally agree that this van was not up to scratch and we could have been in serious difficulties if it had broken down in the desert far away from a mechanic! The rest of that week we spent driving from reception to reception and although we had a fantastic social time with the locals, valuable time was wasted and we could have reached the Egyptian border much quicker!

The greatest irony in all of course is this:
These commenters display the sort of personal aversion either shipping agents or the captain (or both) most prolly felt towards Ken (who, being so there when there, cannot be missed, overlooked or ignored, ... not even on a very large ship, and not on one that could just repeat a performance on the strength of routine alone) .. or put off by so many flakey do gooders, to the point where they start misquoting the contract to each other just to annoy the bunch of them.

I dunno how many other Mavi survivors were on this thing but the need to resist a repeat/replay/reply impulse, a traumatized reaction wasn't felt keenly (Kenly?) nor dealt with carefully enough and so, all (egged up and on) in service of a people struggling with life and death issues (yet keeping up demographics with abandon, ... aint they insufferably unsuffering????) a little urge and cajole here, a foot in the door there, a (nearly empty) van on a bridge and an all too stern word yonder ..presto .. already we're in 'clashitory' to the point where it may have felt like hi-jacking (or echos thereof) for either party already! Tragic. But the entire Arab youth began to make up for it all quite soon afterwards.

One of the last ones is best: 160th comment at Mary's long thread on Ken by Anthony Hunt (who has known him for years)

head-ache dump

more of the same (as in last post) in a 129K attachment here:

more white head n wipe outaches

i head out to dump some ache
i dump on Ytout white out why doubt
i jump on whites, lift some blacks mix, shake, sprinkle and/or blow them greyed ups (greys for sure and short), them dusts across a raincloud, wipe up the spillage and wait for the gar(E)den to grow, Eden to be guarded once again.

indy uk hidden article

http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2011/02/473314.html
that aint kosher, that's torture!
03-02-2011 17:42
link to slaughterhouse footage ... the source is considered, from most angles, questionable and therefore i will write an off (equal rights and a proper place for organisms and aggregates alike but with bovine focus here) topic defense of using it.
+ from earlier today


i dont understand a word you just said
03.02.2011 18:17
"Of the 2 extremes available thus, it behoves us to tackle the bottom biosphere borders of bed-rock below .. or should i say tickle in the garden cultural variety way .. i mean in the sense seercentre.org.uk is doing so, that way the top end will be tickled by tall treehouse projects, give or take a millenium or so."
??????????????????????????????????
maxis


thanks for tryin though
03.02.2011 19:18
verplicht = required
werplicht = throwlight
dutch indy nixed me stuff along with 2 comments... givin them a breather for a few years hasn't improved their disposition any.

light thrower


obsession
03.02.2011 22:53
What was that about Indymedia not being obsessed with Jews?

anon


So your argument is, "Jews eat meat"?
03.02.2011 22:59
Is this something that's only bad when Jews do it?

just to get this straight



typical retorahtrick you got there
03.02.2011 23:48
cruelty comes in many shades but yeah only jews call their slaughter methods kosher and like anything they are wildly succesful at institutionalizing (read socializing) it (loss of ethics in this case, .. once again. So no, not my only complaint, smartypants).

peat



Good old Indymedia UK.
04.02.2011 03:51
Nothing short of "kill the Jews" is ever considered antisemitism here.

But what do you want when the Indymedia UK editor Roy Bard is such a fan of Israel Shamir, the guy The Guardian just denounced in their headline as a Holocaust denier?

Here's The Guardian on the Holocaust denier:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/jan/31/wikileaks-holocaust-denier-handled-moscow-cables

And here's Roy Bard (ftp) worshipping the same guy:
http://lists.indymedia.org/pipermail/imc-uk-features/2007-November/1111-gz.html

ain't that the way http://www.counterpunch.org/shamir08272010.html
Shamir said Assange was framed by "spies" and "crazy feminists"


Maxis: you are a dishonest redactor with editing privileges jumping out of line and sneaking a few in to earlier stages, skewing repartee parity. No fair mate. Wait your turn, there's plenny of room at the end of lines, threads and tethers .. hell even in rock, if and you should make it so, that's my point most of the time. Speaking of digging up fresh air vs yourself into a stinkhole: amsterdam is 7 years late and 3 times over budget with its diabolic subway. And have they conquered soggy saggings now???? Or are we gonna see a new bill for that yet??
/off topic.

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"Nothing short of "kill the Jews" is ever considered antisemitism here."
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yeah, time for action to save the chronically threatened and endangered species innit?
aintcha forgetting the underworkers? not the ones i was on about but the subjectivators, CityOrcies imperially gesticulating by means of o so smart softening wear. Don't JeWorkers polarizing income levels whirlwide ... to boost the military tentacle of the densi- and intensification called the babaliya game ... count?
Oh wait, .. they do do that ... matter of fact that's what they're meant to and all they do, were selected to aindey?

Got some room for this clause in your semitismizmz equation to spare buddy?

as to Shamir ... i remember my delight discovering him in .. oh .. 2002 .. prolly on one of the 3 now defunct semitation discussing indies .. .speaking of which, look at the gentrified indy of/at urbana champlain ucimc (own their building even ... but the news items show a wannabe starlet's mugshots (local Assange?), one after the other and the 'don't crowd unless to comment - comehence and cohere culture' seems dead.

Prolly all bycause of that o so biased pro- jewish types like gehrig who signed off thusly: @%< .. during his heroic full on production in the early noughties on the (admittedly, often redundantly) indies i mentioned, which were rageing to the point of often making me wonder if wasteful duplication would ever be combatted any better than pollution.

gehrig can really do the nile, denial and triple negative pirouettes fancifully and skedaddle on ready for anothe one:

peeps sniffs out a conspiracy
Submitted by gehrig on January 31, 2008 - 1:33pm.

Oh my god they're all against me it's a conspiracy I tells ya!

Before you dissolve into a paranoid fit, I haven't thought one way or another about what I'd do if IMC-UK failed to no-platform the antisemite Atzmon, other than think, "well, they failed the anti-racism test."


http://www.ucimc.org/content/gilad-atzmon-i-am-happy-i-circulated-holocaust-denial-propaganda

Gilad Atzmon: "I am happy i circulated" Holocaust denial propaganda
Submitted by gehrig on January 24, 2008 - 12:02pm
4199 reads

Hoo Boy
Submitted by anonymous on January 29, 2008 - 1:52pm.

Hey gehrig, I know that Indymedia uk get unhappy about these threads, so its great that UC IMC are willing to share the burden.

Reading this i see non-sense unchallenged and a discussion that is sanitized. But hey, they own the building now ... prolly a reward for phoniness.
Promised land housing policies in place and firing on all synapses.

Holocaust? Hell they were never even expulsed as often as they just swarmed.

Rightie sites like to list expulsion of jews from various places around europe, but i think migrations might be a better more neutral term for the resettlements that occured spread out across a millenium.

I know few exceptions to semites lacking an urgent sense of permaculturally integrative indigenous heirloom preservation, thus, a self marginalization pushes, inches and nudges them out of their own habitat even if crazed bombing campaigns do not plague them.

... though mind you, even way back, blacks began sacrificing trees to imperial ocean crossing ventures, another fork in the human road that proved capable of installing a tradesman's trait and inherent concealed weapon in almost everyone: splitbrainy double standards .. doubling over and over, .. geknakte vergokte verknokte saamhorigheid.

A well known segment of semites not only score high demographically but tend to feed as well as conceal it by swarming, any appearance and/or revelation of over-entitlement compared to fresh host majorities or rival minorities gets turned inside out and called prosection, their loyalty issues lead to self-culls, calamities as well as overly conspicuous success via a scatter shot network test, a swarmage.


here's another one:

http://www.ucimc.org/content/prof-stephen-kaufman-sends-letter-protesting-chief-finney
from late 09 with about 12 comments .. would be hilarious .. if it weren't so sad .. the last ones a year later ('chief' has to do with the mascotte issue*)

REALLY????? Wearing the chief is the same thing as wearing a swastika? REALLY???

I think I could find a Holocaust survivor or two that would strongly disagree with that, Mr. Kaufman. Strongly disagree. The last time I checked the former mascot for the University of Illinois didn't kill 144,000 FREAKING PEOPLE. You have NO RIGHT to marginalize the losses of the Jewish community in the Holocaust by comparing their plight to that of a long-gone tribe of native Americans whose image was being used at football games and on t-shirts (who, by the way, originally AGREED to be part of the tradition of this University but later reneged on that agreement because their grandchildren's grandchildren felt they weren't getting PAID enough, but anyways.....).

No comparison. Not even freaking CLOSE.

Grow up. We have bigger issues than the chief going on up in here and we don't whack jobs like you muddying the waters and draining credibility. The University should seriously examine whether or not someone with such questionable judgement and reasoning skills is really qualified to be a "professor" at this institution.


* - Anybody into comparing Geronimo's skull to the david star?
Or how about election media (roeptoeter)bore limits to make the race fair?
throwing fake and trash money at fake trash flaglets waved once in 4 years, just enough to remind the average voting public they really don't know how to behave in crowds (it's not like a REAL abundance tempted them to come stand and wave.. goes hand in hand with throwing more ephemeral dirt riding any and all waves that come along as long as they are remotable. sattelite spy systems is the real trade mark. the clever little plyers flattened and frozen into a symbol, a status, theirs.

as untrumpable bottomline i will add:
let all jews become or remain superrich but make it justifiable (and) as result of tackling the biggest growth factor quite literally, that is, through turning rock and rocky ground fertile, into composted deep soil, that would be putting their inimitable to good and common use i say.

peace out and cheers for free speech. Hail Indy.


where's me indy folder???
149 items strewn about in different locations - a gig and a half and 700Mb worth of vid and aud

prints, yearfiles, native, anarch rewilders, etcetera
first file with indy in the name is from the 26th of april 2001
com vs cap
.. created a file with shortcuts